New study refutes climate-change alarm

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Yes!
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Rather than take this thread off topic given that haarp is NOT a current event why don't you start another thread on this topic in the appropriate forum?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Frequency_Active_Auroral_Research_Program

     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    The Clinton "murders" is one of my all time favorites. This will have to be an ongoing series with a new book out every year.

    https://skeptoid.com/blog/2013/11/18/a-conspiracy-theory-primer-in-fun-alphabet-form/
     
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    Where is your credible source for that allegation?
     
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    Changing the climate is not outside the realm of possibilities, but that has been difficult to prove or disprove. What is not so difficult is that the planet is struggling in a variety of ways that will not only affect human health, but could be affecting the climate as well.

    For example, desertification. The planet is becoming a desert over time and that is something attributable to agricultural activity, especially industrialized methods.

    There are people working on this issue, and to give credit where due, AOC mentioned 'regenerative agriculture', methods that build soil carbon by creating carbon sinks in grasslands, a key part of carbon sequestration and in reversing desertification.

    I'm not supporting a Green New Deal, but I am in support of her general idea that to do something is better than doing nothing at all, and that we should go ahead and get started right away.
     
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    I just think it's funny that folks are always fantasizing about Mars colonies, while cringing over climate change. Hello! Colonize a planet without a breathable atmosphere? :roll: A billion years ago Mars might have had an atmosphere capable of supporting life too. Planets have life cycles, and atmospheric changes occur even without the presence of life. Reducing atmospheric emissions is good. Hysteria is bad.
     
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    So what happens when solar or wind over produce?
     
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    As young as 6.
     
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    If you knew anything about Black Starts you would already know. Look it up.
     
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    The excess can be stored just the same way nuclear overproduction is stored.
     
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    You mean not at all, which is what happens with nuclear overproduction.
     
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    Absolutely NOTHING credible as usual!

    Got it!

    :roflol:
     
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    Not my problem you are uninformed about what you are talking about. Par for the course.
     
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    You store the excess energy in a battery farm and resell it to the grid at peak rates. This is already being done.

    https://www.theguardian.com/technol...-track-to-make-back-a-third-of-cost-in-a-year

    The beauty of this is that power stored in the farm can be sold back into the wholesale grid at the highest demand (and therefore the highest price). As the article above makes clear, this will make solar and wind the high

    Another advantage of battery farms is that the power can be regulated on a real time basis and the release of stored power can almost exactly match the demand curve of the grid, something no natural gas plant or hydro electric power plant can even come close to achieving.

    Right now, the only way to store power in the electric grid is in a reservoir, a very expensive and land intensive process. None the less, that is exactly what they are planning on doing at Hoover Dam.
     
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    Take it down to the drag strip. And get smoked by a yuppie in a Tesla S Ludicrous.
     
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    IOW you know absolutely NOTHING at all about pumped hydro power storage used by nuclear plants!

    :roflol:
    You are the one who doesn't have a clue what you are blathering about.
     
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    Not necessarily. Most of us "deniers" don't deny anything. We consider the scientific community perfectly competent to calculate planetary termperatures. What we fight is letting government get involved in it. When the prices and incentives are right, the private sector will handle it smoothly and apolitically. Therein is the political issue of climate change rather than the simple recognition of its existence. Everybody is talking past each other. Facts are facts. Opinions are political. It isn't about climate change or no climate change. It is about government or private sector.
     
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    You're the one on this thread who is parading being uninformed.

    I have refuted all of your claims and documented my claims too.

    I have also answered your pointless rhetorical questions. You think you're being clever with this "what happens when the sun doesn't shine or the wind blows line".

    That's right wing talk radio stupidity. Which is why it comes out of the mouths of fools like Trump.
     
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    So you agree that the government of We the People should END the $4.6 billion taxpayer SUBSIDY each year to the fossil fuel industries?
     
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    So somehow throwing money at anybody who claims to be an environmental and holds the right political views is going to save the world?
     
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    Of course. Government-federal government really- should never subsidize the private sector.
     
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    Yes, the uninformed like you parade around as if you are the font of knowledge without knowing you are not.
     
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    Liberals have been brainwashed to believe that America is a bad country and the cause of poverty in the rest of the world

    They want Americans to suffer a reduced lifestyle as a way of making up for our unfair success
     
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