New York Times: How Can We Get Rid of Trump?

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  1. Hedgology

    Hedgology Well-Known Member

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    That's your problem. I can't come up with better ways of explaining it, but if people don't trust the media to simply report the truth, they're not going to listen to the media.
     
  2. PrincipleInvestment

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    MSM is trying desperately to provide the "real time" coverage that they're audience demands. It's not a new phenomena, and the pitfalls are very real. Countless vigilante mobs were incited to commit heinous acts by irresponsible journalism in days not so far past. Stories have consequences, and journalists have to be accountable.
     
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    I think anyone who is a bit honest knows the media for the most part was on Clinton's side or at least rooting for her. Personally, I don't think the media was honest or just report the facts during the general election or what some would call, straight news without slants. That to a certain extent has continued during Trump's first month being president.

    But Trump caused a lot of the negative press himself with his foot in mouth disease during the primaries and general. Trump has also caused a lot of the negative press with his constant need to twitter and not having his facts straight. This leaves the impression that he says a lot of things without thinking, knee jerk reactions that if he thought about what he was going to say for five minutes, wouldn't.

    Trump in my opinion has done nothing to warrant impeachment. Perhaps what the press hates most about him is that Trump isn't acting presidential. At least in the normal, traditional way one expects a president to act and to say. A lot of the time, the media attacks are not against his policies, most have received 50% or above approval from the public at large. Most of the attacks are against him personally, his persona and ad hoc way of doing things. His what some would conclude at times idiotic statements and personal attacks on other elected officials and the press. In short, this is a two way street.

    Trump does give the press fodder to attack him, the press didn't need that fodder, but it keeps them going and hardens their views of him. Yesterday or the day before, I heard one reporter say and I forget what news organization of whom he worked for as I was listening to the radio when the news came on. In so many words he said it was the press's job to be the opposition party to Trump since the Democrats control nothing in Washington and can't do anything. Whether this was just one man's or reporter's notion or if it has permeated throughout most of the press world, I don't know. I hope not.

    The press's job is to report the news, just the facts, the straight news without a bias or slant or letting a personal political agenda enter it. The press doesn't do that anymore, if they really ever did. But political bias, slants, agenda were kept covert and hidden for the most part in the past. Today those biases, slants etc. are right out there in the open, overt if you will. Some, not all, but a growing number.

    But I think due to a lot of Trump's own action, action the press doesn't need to be against him, will only make this worst. It I think is irreversible.
     
  4. Ole Ole

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    The Trump only four or six year terms!!!!
     
  5. glloydd95

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    LOL.

    You obviously haven't been paying attention.

    With this President, it is all going to be about results. He will either get them or he won't and that will be the ONLY criteria the people who voted him into office will judge.
     
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    What seems to be escaping many is that no is arguing that President Trump is not a lousy politician. No one is arguing that he isn't always "Presidential". No one is arguing that he isn't often inappropriate and inflamatory.

    The very thing that the left (and some on the right) mocks him for and criticizes him for is exactly what got him elected.

    When will people understand that the rest of the country is sick of business as usual?
     
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    Well, the good news is that this is as good as the hysteria on the left gets. Terrified by the superficial. Truly, a joy to behold.
     
  8. Scampi

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    Oops sorry, but as a ‘Professional’ I thought you would understand. Never mind don’t get upset about it.
     
  9. Hedgology

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    Lack of understanding and lack of relevance are two different things.
     
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    If you say so.
     
  11. Margot2

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    He won't get results...... There is no magic in governance and you can't bully your way through it.
     
  12. glloydd95

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    Perhaps not but you can put the interests of the voters first. You can stop worrying about political correctness. You can stop governing through various political bribes. You can do what you say you are going to do.

    You don't know he won't get results. You don't want him to. Like all the people who hated Obama and wanted to see him fail even at the expense of damage to the country, you are doing the same thing with Trump.

    What does that say about you?
     
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    IT is also called secular leftist agenda at any cost, and, we are used to it. The NYTimes, WaPost, all major newspapers, CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS, CNN, et al. have been covering up the lies and crimes and nefarious acts of the left since at least Obama's first campaign. And people like you could not care less if you know the truth or not, especially, if you think you can look like you are on the winning side.

    This is how sick our nation has become. Godless, but filled with pride and naivety.
     
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    Trump is too old to be president .. He has early dementia and he reacts to his own mistakes by abusing others. .. Like your last post, he will blame everyone but himself.
     
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    Are you a doctor Margot? You have examined the President and you have direct knowledge of his dementia and age related health issues? He must not be that abusive because nearly everyone who has worked for him has had a positive experience.

    You don't just have opinions Margot. You think you know everything and leave no room for the highly likely scenario that you are wrong about something. You will rationalize it away or counter with some stupid comment like," oh, you got that from so and so, he doesn't know what he is talking about."

    You are in your own way, as arrogant as Donald Trump ever was.
     
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    Good to know you're not for a free press. I'm sure trump is proud to have brownshirts at his disposal who are all too willing to take a dump on the constitution. You call yourself an American?
     
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    He clearly hasn't accepted that the country isn't one of his rallies with frothing idiots in trucker hats. Therefore, the stick swinging will continue.
     
  18. cupAsoup

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    No, it's most certainly the criticism. By calling the criticism lies he's showing that he simply cannot handle it. Great men acknowledge that they have flaws and work to the best of their ability to overcome them.

    Obama routinely derided fox news. However, he never called them the enemy of the American people. That's a stark difference trump apologists don't seem to grasp. Also, your deflection to Obama is telling that you simply cannot defend trump. Look, I don't blame you. I wouldn't want to try and make sense of his idiotic ramblings either. That being said, calling every piece of criticism false, and every news outlet that doesn't kiss up fake news isn't going to make the criticism stop. It's going to intensify. The man-child in chief is going to have to stop being a sensitive snowflake and understand he isn't campaigning anymore.
     
  19. Fred C Dobbs

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    He's only two years older than Hillary and works very hard. It was actually Hillary who was having to be led about.
     
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    Kinda like how Jeb! said President Tump could not insult his way to the white house? Hahahaha!

    I love how these "egg-spurts" keep getting it wrong.
     
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    He called "Fake News" the enemy of the American people and a strong case could be made for that argument. Any dishonesty in the mass media is detrimental to an informed society.

    “The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!”

    There has been many instances of "Fake News" from these organizations and you can probably research them on Google.
     
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    Oh for Heaven's sake....He hasn't been in office long enough to determine that. :roll: But I get it...You just don't like the man. Lots of US didn't like Obama either....Sorry, you lost this time...(that is what Obama told US)


    So you agree...thanks.
     
  23. WillReadmore

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    No, i was not fooled by what was in your cites, nor do thry inspire wrong headed response even if i did.

    The election results DO matter, as it is a call for more action against voters, and distracts from the fact that our democracy was attacked by Russia.

    The overall issue does matter. Lies natter. Presudents lying are highly serious. And, just fumping on the press in general is nit a solution.
     
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    No, the problem i called out was one of such bad English as to make the content indecipherable.
     
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