Next slap for Trump: EU and Japan sign JEFTA!

Yet, you make almost nothing of your own...

 

As usual you tell bullshit.

German cars are high quality and we sell alot in Japan. But thats not the point. In each japanese car are german parts. Again from Bosch but also Siemens, ZF ect. With no tariffs they export even more there.

The important thing is to build global alliances and keep the americans out. China does the same, seeks alliance with Germany to cull american business.

 

Are you kidding me? You do realize that Germany is leading in science and engineering, right? Its the main reason why we steamroll your companies in global competition. And we do steamroll your companies while often even have a higher price.

We make evrything ourself. German machines, Pharma, biotech.

Its your demented president who cries because our absolute economic dominance.

With your last post you showed how clueless you are in evrything.

 

You make next to nothing.
Can’t build much of software. Probably can’t even make a shaving razor. Cars are junk. For every 3-5 US companies you list only one alternative, which is crap anyway.
Sorry, but you, Germans, fail. You got nothing but junk! You can sell that junk to Russians in exchange for being overcharged for gas. In porn that’s usually called ATM - that’s what Germans practice today with Russians.

 

Yeah we fail so much, that we are export worldmaster, have almost zero unemplyment, generate gigantic surplus and lead globally in tech exports. Meanwhile your president cries because nobody buys the **** your illiterate workers screw up. I know you are just trolling anyways but hey at least you
learn how shitty your country is. Your poverty and lack of engineering skills makes me sick.

https://www.ft.com/content/3806aa54-f089-11e7-b220-857e26d1aca4

German economic boom puts record numbers into work

https://qz.com/586547/germany-is-the-worlds-strongest-economy/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...s-break-record-as-trump-targets-trade-balance

 

Your 5.2% unemployment is pretty much recession level unemployment to the US.
Again, miserable.
Be proud of Germany’s mediocrity!

 

Let's take your idiotic hatred of the supposedly shitty German cars out ... the sales figures alone prove that you're telling BS here ...

And I have no idea what you do not want to get at the simple fact:

Import tariff on Japanese cars in EU after entry into force of Jefta: 0%
Import tariff on US cars at the moment and when JEFTA comes into force continues: 10%

So for the wise as you: Customs on Japanese cars in the EU no longer exists, continue to US cars! No disadvantage for the US?

And as for the slap, you have to be really blind to write a BS like you ...
The whole world makes free trade agreements with each other, only the US does not and nobody with the US! Surely you can shrug your shoulders, but the example with the cars clearly shows what it the US brings ... only disadvantages!

 

How ridiculous is that? With tariffs ... I really get a laugh!
Seriously ... turn your head on and use the organ, what's in there before you write!

 

Seriously?
How long do you still want to come with this lie that this 10% tariff extra will be levied against the US cars?

Fact # 1
These 10% are levied on all cars exported from outside to the EU ... and the US is only one of many countries where these 10% tariff is levied. Your statement is thus due to the facts BS!

Fact # 2
Also on all cars of VW, BMW and Mercedes, which are manufactured in the US and then exported to the EU for sale, these 10% tariff are due! That concerns for example all SUVs of BMW from the X series, because all are manufactured exclusively in the USA.
And all other European automakers that have factories outside the EU and bring cars to the EU from there have to pay 10%! Your statement is thus again due to the facts BS!

Fact # 3
This raises the question, why then less US cars are wanted. Generally this is not the case, because for example, the Ford Mustang is very popular in Europe ... but the US cars often have a self-induced disadvantage: A comparatively too high fuel consumption!
At us in Europe, the fuel price is on average 3 to 4 times higher than in the US ... and therefore the fuel consumption is an important point in purchasing decisions! Your statement because of the tariff is thus again just BS!

Fact # 4
At the moment, the same 10% tariff is to be paid on Japanese cars as on the US cars ... see Fact # 1!
As soon as JEFTA comes into force, only 0% of Japanese cars are covered ... but still 10% on US cars!
And that should not be a disadvantage for the US cars compared to the Japanese cars exporting to the EU? Seriously?

 

All imported food in my country is more expensive because of EU tariffs.
The global price of food is cheaper.

Along with many other goods.
The price of living in the UK is higher because EU tariffs.
The EU shafts the poor in this country and they know it.

In the case of food this does not even protect our industries because they are globally competitive.

So the EU shafts the poor. ****s the economy using tariffs.
It applies Tariffs wanted in France to everyone, Which ****s everyone, 300 million odd people, to save a few jobs in France.

 

10% on cars is 10% on US cars too.

I don't think they care what your tariffs on other people are.
Well done, the EU tariffs the **** out of everyone.
We know.

But not everyone has the muscle to argue with a bully.
The US does and is.

With the example of China the 10% drop in Chinese tariff on cars Trump negotiated also applies to cars from other countries.Yours for example. Trump got your Chinese tariffs cut too.
Trump is doing the world a favour.

When tariffs drop, bureaucrats will have less money, world wide. Lefty's hate him, it messes with their money tree.
A globa tax cut....fuchin' 'elll.

 

Am I the only one who finds it suss that apparently taxes don't have a big affect on the economy: income taxes, consumption taxes, etc - but when imports are taxed all of a sudden there are massive implications, flow on effects like beer becoming more expensive due to aluminium tariffs, etc.

Apparently taxes are bad now.

 

If high fuel consumption of American cars is a problem for the euros then why do you need the 10% tariff?

Are germans not smart enough to make that choice without government making it for them?

Your “facts” do not make sense

 

Good point

When liberals raise taxes they dont care if it slows the economy or not

 

As far as taxes go tariffs seem like one of the learlst invasive.

Lotteries
Tariffs
Consumption tax
¿
¿
¿
Payroll tax
Income tax
Sin taxes

Tariffs raise prices and I oppose them, but at least they raise prices on goods and services which aren't produced in the nation.

The early US functioned near entirely on tariffs. The problem was protectionist tariffs, not tariffs for revenue purposes. I think it's time we reconsider.

 

Tariffs are designed to protect American industries

We need to make stuff in America and cannot simply import everything we consume

 

I like free trade, but if tax has to come from somewhere it may as well incentivise local employment.

 

W H A T ???

You know that the entire trade within the EU is totally duty-free ... so 0% tariff on anything?
How can there be more expensive because of EU tariffs, if there are no tariffs, eh?

 

Just because they make no sense to you does not mean that they make no sense.

And you've already figured out that a BMW X5 built in the US would pay just 10% more than a Cadillac Escalade Wangler Jeep?

 

Absolutely

We are losing many of the skills that Ametica once do inated the world with

Some free traders cling to the idea that the US is morin ovative and we dont need to locate factories here

But the world is catching up in education as well raw manufacturing

Someday china will do both and America will do neither if we dont put a stop to the erosion now

 

Again, if American cars are as unpopular as you claim why do you need a 10% tariff?

Your “facts” do not add up

 

Again ... did you get it that on all cars which are not produced in the USA are these 10% tariff?

So why shall we put them off when this is no disadvantage for the US cars and the reason is another one, eh?

 

On the other hand, may I make a claim?

Why is it so difficult for foreign companies intentionally to sell things in the US with bureaucracy? Let me give you an example ...

If one of your companies wants to sell something to us, then this US company has the free choice to open branches / sales offices or to cooperate with a German / European company, which simply includes in its range the products of the US company ,
If a German / European company wants to sell something to you, then it is forbidden to cooperate with an US company and it must first take a very expensive US lawyer to get the commercial permission in the US, but only with its own branch!

To put it more clearly ...
Can a US car dealer selling new Dodge cars do a co-operation with the French carmaker Renault (to avoid always taking only German manufacturers) in France, import new Renault cars and simply sell them under US law together with the new Dodge? No!
Can a French Renault dealer sell the new Renault simply make a co-op with Dodge in the US, import new Dodge cars and then simply sell new Renault and new Dodge together under French and European law? Yes!

I am talking here of national law of the countries, not of contractual obstacles, that, for example, a dealer is contractually tied to Dodge or Renault and no other new cars than these may sell under the contract!

 

I am not buying your claim that American cars will not sell

Besides what you charge other countries is not important to me

I only care what you charge America

If trump decides to slap a 10% tariff on german cars I’m all for it

 

I dont know the tariff on french cars

As you know our EPA demands that all cars conform to US environmental laws and safety standards

But I think euros are comparable to America so that is not a big problem