NO evidence of nationwide election fraud!!

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yep, that's their strategy.

    IM sure the courts will agree.

    ;)
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I've linked to this so many times on this forum, but I'll assume you didn't see it.

    https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud

    This is the history of voter fraud in America, researched and well-presented by one of our most conservative think tanks. Go ahead, select a state, any state you like. Or read through them all. Or just look at the totals on the splash page.

    There has never been any massive fraud, and there wasn't any this time. A few nincompoops here and there, as usual.

    Biden won the election fair and square. Trump needs to acknowledge the loss and start cooperating with the transition.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Whether it is an accident or not, it should be investigated so that it does not happen again. There is zero excuse for that happening.

    I have spent a good deal of my time around airplanes. After an accident occurs, they determine the cause. If it is a mechanical defect, they inspect every single aircraft that could have that same defect. However, they do not stop there. If an aircraft has a mechanical problem which was due to human error, the basic cause may be more than that single problem. For example, the basic reason may be that for some reason, mechanics are not following procedures. Then they go beyond that until they find out why and then correct that basic problem.

    The same applies to elections, when a mistake is found, they need to correct that mistake and then they need to dig deeper to determine whether there are more basic problems. Of course, with all that investigation, they might even find out that it was intentional.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    accidents should not be used as a desperate partisan excuse to hold up certification of state election results.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And I have explained many times. You are not likely to find extensive voter fraud without an thorough investigation. I prefer not to just accidently discover voter fraud.
     
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    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ~ If Adam Schiff says he has evidence of Trump/Putin collusion, Rudy Giuliani says he has tapes of vote manipulation. That's good enough . [​IMG]
     
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    U.S.—A study has found a strong connection between believing Russia rigged the 2016 election and now suddenly believing elections are entirely foolproof, trustworthy, and unhackable.

    "It seems that people who screamed about Russia for 4 years now have a 100% chance of encouraging everyone to accept the 2020 election results without question," said study head Dr. Rupert Manning. "It's basically all the way across the board: if you believed that Vladimir Putin somehow hacked voting machines, purchased a bunch of memes, and raised an army of millions of Russian bots to disrupt the election and get Donald Trump elected, you certainly now believe that our elections are completely safe and secure."

    This is satire, an article from the Babylon Bee, making fake news out of a true story.
    That's the only kind the left understands....
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But we really don't know whether it was an accident, do we?
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My raison d'etre. It's how I like to spend my mornings, drinking good coffee and making heads explode.

    :frustrated:
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    first we need evidence of extensive coordinated nation-wide election fraud, THEN we start an investigation.

    so far we have no such evidence.

    let the election certifications continue.

    however, if YOU find evidence of extensive coordinated nation-wide election fraud, then maybe we should put things on pause.

    let me know when u find it.

    :p
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All of you should carefully read this.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And I previously explained why that will not work.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL!!!

    you cant put a hold on an election certification process without evidence of a major event of election fraud.

    find us some evidence, and then maybe we can talk about putting things on pause.

    we don't put election certifications on pause because we WANT to find some election fraud, somewhere. out there.

    :p
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no court will allow a state certification of the election to be put on hold until someone provides evidence of MAJOR statewide election fraud.

    deal with it.

    :)
     
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    For Trumpers it's...assume there is widespread voter fraud, despite no evidence, and file frivolous lawsuits anyway.
     
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    Please provide one quote from anyone claiming that elections are 100% secure.

    No one with more than two brain cells expects complete integrity in an election involving human beings. That's unrealistic at best. But we do have far less fraud in ours than most countries.

    See the link in #52.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm gonna say this again:

    NO court will hold up a state's election certification unless evidence is provided of large-scale statewide election fraud.

    time to put up or shut up.
     
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    Do you remember the movie "Catch 22".

    Can't prove voter fraud until we have an investigation.

    Can't conduct an investigation until we prove fraud.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    No the final decree has not been written. In fact no case has been dismissed yet. The defendants asked for that, they may well not get it.
     
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    except you left out that Biden votes were in the mix too, and it did not change the election results.....

    Trump lost, Biden will be your President too
     
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    There were more Trump votes in the mix. And did change the election results.
    I believe Trump lost. And Biden will be my president.
     
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    I do not think Republicans set aside these Biden votes intentionally, why do I think that, cause both candidates votes in the mix
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the recount did not change the election results, Biden has too big a lead, recounts only change the results if someone wins by say a couple of hundred voted
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The key words are "I do not think ". Not that it did not happen, but only that you do not think it happened. I like a bit more evidence than that.
    One mistake was discovered without a thorough investigation. Maybe we should consider a more thorough investigation just to see what else is out there.
     
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    Nothing like putting the cart before the horse. The lawsuits were being filed this week and all have not been filed. That is where you will find the evidence of fraud along with 234 pages of sworn affidavits, the design of the voting machines used in 30 states also used in Venezuala to steal the election. They did it the same way. Stopped the voting to update the algorithm. One of the design 'features' of the software is to be able to switch or delete votes. Not a flaw, a design feature.
     

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