North Korea says can test-launch ICBM at any time:

A UN resolution is like forming a committee, it's a way to look like you are doing something while in fact doing nothing and as you can see by the current situation the resolution did exactly that, nothing.

 

In other words you have no clue what should be done and feel this is another chance to blame Obama for something. The U.N and Obama have constantly attempted to apply pressure on both NK and China to little avail. Sanctions do not work, diplomacy is ineffective, every U.S. president for decades has "Tried" and nothing works.

Unless your idea involves warfare you have no clue either.

 

He pushed for increased sanctions multiple times, most recently just a few months ago:

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbsn...a-hit-stronger-sanctions-un-security-council/

But I wouldn't expect a Rightwinger to actually remember something that they must reject in order to maintain their fantasy world.

 

More of the can't be do leftist attitude on display. It sounds like you think NK is destined to become a nuclear power and that's just the way it is. Thank God you guys were kicked out of power in this election!

 

Reagan, on advice from those who actually understand this stuff, decided it couldn't be done. He was hardly a liberal! So I'll ask you for the third time; what do you think should be done? If successive administrations of both political colours couldn't manage anything, what is your solution? I don't mind if you say, 'I don't know', because I don't know either. And it appears nobody else does.

 

" Pushed for increased sanctions"? That's the best you've got? As I said Obama did nothing on this issue as he focused on public toilets.

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It would have been nice to see Obama give at least this much attention to NK and it's ICBM program.

 

So beyond sanctions, exactly what should Obama have done? Should he have started a war with North Korea with no authorization from Congress that would have resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of South Koreans also without their input?

 

So they'll make them while Trump is president, is that what you're saying?

 

Pacifism is perhaps the only system that's 100% guaranteed for peace. But Pacifism isn't possible as long as the gene for aggression lies within human biology. There will be aggressors, and there must be those with the courage and strength to defend against the aggressors.

 

Care to substantiate this claim with some facts? The way I remember it the program was cancelled by following administrations. Be that as it may the liberals of the era were against any shield technology because they thought it would promote a nuclear war. Now they want something along the lines of what Reagan proposed so very long ago.


"The ambitious initiative was criticized for allegedly threatening to destabilize the MAD-approach and to possibly re-ignite "an offensive arms race".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Defense_Initiative

 

Yes, drastically cut by George H W Bush and finally dismantled under Clinton by which time the Soviet Union no longer existed anyway. We were extremely concerned that SDI would create an imbalance of power, initiating another arms race. Not a great idea.
http://science.howstuffworks.com/star-wars-program1.htm

 

Wait and see what Trump does for the answer to your questions. He's not a kick the can down the road kind of man and you will likely need to run to your safe zone or therapist when he takes action.

 

Why are you unable to answer the question?

What exactly was Obama supposed to do?

 

NK already IS a nuclear power for all intent and purpose. And if not being an idiot about foreign policy makes me a "Leftist"...sign me up because it beats the hell outa being ignorant.

 

He was supposed to focus on the issue and put all his resources from the CIA to the diplomats to the mi!Itary on this instead of focusing on global warming Gitmo and public restrooms. Trump will do that and it will be interesting to see what they do. I expect you may soon be hearing about mysterious explosions in NK nuclear and ICBM development sites that are attributable to nobody. I also expect to NK computer systems country wide to suddenly collapse and their power grid to go off line. You may even see an uprising of the general population with arms that somehow appeared out of nowhere. You may see military bases go down as they run out of food and supplies from a collapsed transportation infrastructure as train tresteles are blown up by who knows who and other creative things even I can't imagine. Watch and learn.

 

Imagination is a wonderful thing. North Korea's grid barely functions at the best of times. How on earth you think smuggling enough arms to attempt to counter a standing army of millions (1.7 active, 7.7 reserve), is remotely achievable-even assuming North Korea's population actually want to depose their Dear Leader-is something I need to hear.

 

Yes Clinton hammered the last nails in the coffin of a missile defense system started by Reagan, a system that we wish we had up and running today. Reagan was ahead of his time.

 

Because you know where the CIA are and are not focused?

North Korean computer systems aren't globally connected for the most part and their nuclear facilities are buried and isolated. The whole system is designed to be counter to sabotage.

We'd have to launch a military strike to take them down, and they have more than two dozen sites spread across the country.

So what exactly should Obama have done that he didn't already do? I've already demonstrated that he had our diplomats involved (so you can stop lying about that).

You also understand most of North Korea's food and supplies come from China, right? Those train trestles are owned by China.

You want us to not only start a war with North Korea without the authorization from congress, you want a war with China.

 

NK is a nuclear power without an ICBM to threaten us with but they have been diligently persueing that for the last eight years as Obama persued equal access to public toilets. It's crunch time now and Trump has to clean up the mess he inherited from obama.

 

So you would prefer another potentially catastrophic arms race to the relative parity in arms and MAD, which we now have? Because that's exactly what the consequences of SDI would have been.

 

Your option of accepting NK as a nuclear power with ICBM technology is unacceptable and the longer we put off dealing with that the worse our options are. Unfortunately Obama ignored this for his two terms and is we are where we are.

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Thanks for proving my previous point that the liberals killed Reagan's shield that we wish we had today

 

Why is it unacceptable? We maintain absolutely nuclear superiority over North Korea. Any attempt to use nuclear weapons against the US would be met with the annihilation of the entire country.

BTW, North Korea as a nuclear power predates Obama, but by all means continue lying about that.

However, given that I've already proven you wrong, you should probably stop lying about Obama ignoring North Korea.

 

It's unacceptable because just as with Iran we are not dealing with a rational state with a rational leader. For the sake of argument let's say we can't stop rogue states from becoming nuclear powers and Obama's decision to ignore the problem was valid. He then should have shifted focus to a missile defense system that while it couldn't stop a full fledged attack from Russia or China could stop a small scale attack from a nation with a handful of nuclear tipped ICBM 's. But no, Obama instead focused on public restrooms.

 

It is unfortunately clear you have no intention of paying attention to or evaluating anything stated and thus I will stop even trying.

Have A Nice Day

 

Right. Pray tell what irrational actions have Iran or North Korea taken?

BTW we do have a missile defense system that can stop a limited strike from a rogue state, especially North Korea. There's 75 midcourse interceptors in Alaska and California.

Are you just this extremely ignorant of US military affairs or are you blatantly lying?