Not a 'Christian nation'

http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/opinion/display_lte.htm?storyid=141085#.UGCb1a61o7W

An interesting article that points out the obvious.

The US is not a Christian nation. Even the American Taliban should realize such, given their repeated and never failing inability to point out which Christian values are instilled in the US Constitution.

 

False, many of the Founders took inspiration from the Bible and promoted religion and Christianity as good for society. The USA was founded, in part, on the Christian values of the Founders. Even most of the Founders who weren't Christians still upheld the Bible and Christianity as sources of wisdom.

 

The founding fathers took inspiration from many different things and to take one of them and state that its the only one that matters is to show the ignorance many people believe all religious people share.

Your post says a whole lot of nothing.

 

I agree, false. In addition to the fact that our founding fathers based many of the principles of the constitution on Christianity we have a representative form of government and approximately 75% of Americans identify themselves as Christian (varies slightly depending on the source). That makes a pretty strong case that this is a Christian nation.

 

http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sec...5#.UGCb1a61o7W

An interesting article that points out the obvious.

The US is not a Christian nation. Even the American Taliban should realize such, given their repeated and never failing inability to point out which Christian values are instilled in the US Constitution.

Please provide examples. Be specific.

 

Most Americans are white, is it a white nation as well?

 

Most are also female and yet they don't have full control over their bodies and now get to be called the rape accuser instead of rape victim. So much for the representative form of government.

 

We used to be a Christian nation for the most part…but thanks to the left wing radical humanists…it is obvious that their religion has taken hold and that is why we are in the sad shape we are in.

Our morality as a nation….is nothing Christian…..our immorality is humanism.

 

Very good points and the US can not be a denominational nation with no state recognition of any one government church. It is sad that the public is so ignorant of the actual meanings of the separation of Church and state.

 

So I guess it is a Woman Nation too.

The Appeal to Popularity Fallacy is hardly an argument to live by.

 

Humanism?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanist_Manifesto

Is there some sort of negative attribute to the philosophy that is centered around the benefit of humanity and the environment?

 

And I see how none of those things cannot be true as well today. However, using the bible to create law ( such as Sarah Palin or Rick Perrys statements that Mans law must match Gods laws ) Or the whole gay marriage debate. Most people want it banned because its an abomonatino, its icky, its against gods will, blah blah blah. Thats just plainly wrong. And frankly, very hypocritical, because they dont use those same standards to judge themselves.

 

What people who make this argument fail to realize is that they completely destroy everything that makes America great by labeling it a Christian nation. Living under any ruling class flies in the face of FREEDOM.

 

So how would you choose to reverse this? To you agree that the wall of seperation from church and state is a two way thing? Or only a one way thing?

 

Yeah it makes Christianity look bad.

 

I suppose in light of 1 Corinthians 14:34 and Leviticus 20:13 the whole women's rights movement and gay rights movement is rather embarrassing.

 

Yes, secular humanists pretend to be neutral, but that can't be further from the truth. They too have personal beliefs and they impose them on society. That is why it is a religion. Humanism is Americas national religion today. And its no wonder just look around at the immorality. We are in a state of decay because of secular humanists.

 

So having a belief and imposing it on society is your definition of a religion? I guess that means the civil rights movement was a religion just as the Save The Whales organization is a religion. Please.

Another individual who has no concept of humanity and it's time on this earth. Show me the statistics of Christians and humanists in America for the last 100 years or hell even the last 30 years. Then tell me that the overwhelming majority is not to blame in any way for the shape of the society they live in. And that's just the civilians. No go find the statistics of congressmen, senators and presidents who were religious versus those who were humanists.

That last one you shouldn't even have to look up. It's something you should be able to pick up by simply being alive.

 

Do you believe that the views of Christians regarding creation, life, same sex marriage are wrong?

 

Really? Well then you should have no problem quoting an article or ammendment or clause from the constitution and then telling us what uniquely Christian principle it was based on. But you won't do it and at best you'll just come up with some lame reason...

 

Yep the same exact way I believe that eating junk food, doing meth and harming others is wrong.

Having a different perspective or point of view than others has nothing to do with religion.

My rejection of anothers ideology or religion is itself not an ideology or religion.

And my belief that belief alone is not enough to give something validity is also not a religion.

Also 1+0=1

 

Be specific please.

 

Three pages and not a single citation regarding which aspects of US government are uniquely Christian.

 

And of course there won't be. This always amazes me. Like I said before, if their claim were true, it would be easy to just site an article or clause from the constitution and then explain how it was derived from a Christian principle. But it won't happen because the link just isn't there. Consequently all you get is bravado and lame excuses.

 

Nothing new - but most Americans are/were Christians or followed the philosophers of the enlightenment and I guess this makes it really to gods own country. By the way: since a short time now more Christians than Muslims are living in Africa. Soon there will live more african Christians than Christians in North- and Southamerica together. This will not only change Africa - this will also change the christian religions. The game is not over, undertaker.

http://youtu.be/VPpd-6X3tEo