Now, the liberals move to control your diet....

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    And people will become less and less able to exercise self-restraint.

    All such moves are designed to disable, ultimately. Paternalising adults is controlling adults.
     
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    you were talking about not putting weight on, sure, your diet can work for that

    I was talking about obese people losing weight, and that requires one to reduce insulin, which requires one to reduce the carbs

    what you eat has an effect on your hormones, you do agree with that right, when you eat carbs it spikes your insulin

    "Hormones play no role at all in weight loss."

    seriously? you believe that?
     
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    so do you approve of putting other addictive substances in the check out line? or just sugar?

    are people less able to control themselves cause alcohol is not in the checkout lanes, how about cigarettes?

    how about walking over to get those items if one wants them, burn a few callories
     
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    I'm NOT talking about fatties. I'm talking about ordinary healthy people remaining that way.

    Hormones are a casualty of your errors, not the cause of your errors. And all you are doing by trying to cheat via chemistry, is prolonging a cure. You must fix hormone disregulation FIRST, then move on to addressing diet.

    The very first thing any fat person must do is start moving. Doesn't have to be a workout, just stop sitting down. Stay on your feet for more hours than you're seated in a day and you're automatically way ahead of the game. The muscle effort involved in standing/walking is enough to keep the metabolism pumping all your waking hours. Hormones will be regulated within a few weeks, if not even sooner. Once that's happened, you can then move on to addressing the terribly unhealthy diet of too much animal fat and protein. Heck, go lacto-vegetarian for a month and the weight will fly off. Just eat rice, beans, vegetables, olive oil, and fish. Drink water and herbal teas only.
     
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    I thought you were

    now that you know we are talking about America's obesity problem, do you agree that hormones play a role and reducing insulin is the way to lose that weight? and the way to reduce insulin is to reduce carbs?

    Movement is healthy, but getting the diet in order is more important for losing weight, you can't exercise away a bad diet when your obese

    you have to get the insulin in check, or you will never lose the weight

    insulin is the fat storage hormone and it blocks you from using your own body fat as energy, which you need to do to lose weight
     
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    Let me say it again. Hormones are disregulated by LACK OF MOVEMENT. If you want your metabolism (endocrine system - hormones) to function properly and thereby regulate hormones properly, you first have to start moving. Correct the disregulation FIRST. You can't do that via cheating the chemistry .. that is not a cure. The only way you can cure it is by correcting your metabolism.

    For the thousandth time .. metabolic process is a function of MOVEMENT. Sluggish movement equals a sluggish metabolism. And a sluggish metabolism plays havoc with hormones.
     
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    you can say it as many times as you want, but eating carbs spikes insulin, insulin is the fat storage hormone

    if you want to lose weight, you have to reduce the insulin, thus reduce the carbs

    if you want to improve your metabolism, lower the carbs

    and yes if you're able, do some exercise as that is great for health and will burn some calories, but the weight loss will be mostly diet
     
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    Fructose.... remember, fructose is processed by the liver the same as alcohol, just without the buzz, contributing to nonalcoholic fatty liver

    "Fructose content in popular beverages made with and without high-fructose corn syrup"

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0899900714001920

    "in some juices made from 100% fruit, fructose concentration reached 65.35 g/L accounting for 67% of sugars."
     
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    Hormonal disregulation does not cause obesity - obesity (and/or lack of exericise) causes disregulation of hormones!

    You have it all backwards. It's your bad habits that are causing your obesity (and the subsequent assault on your endocrine system). You MUST correct those habits if you hope to have a properly functioning metabolism. Resorting to an outrageously high fat diet - one which is both unhealthy and unsustainable - will never work. You can't cheat the system and win. ESPECIALLY when you're working backwards.
     
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    eating carbs causes the hormone insulin to rise, that is the fat storage hormone, if you're trying to lose weight, you want to reduce that hormone, just common sense

    you may think raising insulin by eating lots of carbs throughout the day will help you lose weight, I say your wrong

    if you want to burn fat, you have to keep the insulin in your body low, and you do that by reducing the carbs

    no one said to eat a high fat diet, I said to eat a low-carb diet, the main fat you are eating is your body fat - that is the way you're body is designed

    once your body goes into fat burning mode, you will burn your own bodies fat, as much as your body needs, that is how you lose weight

    if you lose 8 lbs of body fat in a month, you ate 8 lbs of your own body fat that month (do you think eating 8lbs of your own fat a month is unhealthy?)

    have you ever seen anyone that lose 60 lbs in 6 months say they are less healthy because they ate 60lbs of fat in 6 months? most people feel much healthier, but how, they ate all that fat, you say that is not possible, eating all that fat should make them sick right, mess up their hormones, but it doesn't, their hormones improve
     
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