NYPD limits number of cops filing for retirement amid 400% surge of officers heading for the exit be

Over and above all the "retirements" going on in MN, 150 officers have filed for disability citing PTSD among other reasons. Thank God they are dismantling the police department and will have no need to replace them.

 

No there are marked differences in how blacks react to LEO's questioning or arrest them. Pretending that doesn't happen is ludicrous. If I, a white guy, physically resist arrest they will use necessary physical force against me PERIOD and I have PLENTY of experience with minorities and minority communities like the South Side of Chicago. It's as "fair" as dictate by the black community and black individuals.

But this thread is about what now with the LEO disappearing, what do you think will happen to what little civil order is left in these black communities and urban areas?

I see you did not take my suggestion the thread I liked you too..........how come?

 

as I mentioned before I see no reason to believe that we wont see a massive wave of police officers using any and all available avenues to leave.

I honestly dont expect this to happen in my city, things are kosher around here, but I've been wrong before.

 

I never said that.

 

I am not objective on this point as I'm a former LEO and I've witnessed the abuse on both sides (as a cop and as a civilian). I think any high risk job takes a toll on the human body and psyche, but that's the job description.

The barrier is LEOs (and doctors) have internal systems that basically allow them to get away with just about anything. SOME LEOs become drunk with power and abuse the citizens they are supposed to serve and protect. It can't change as long as there is no independent oversight of what they do. That's like asking the Pope to fairly review allegations against abusive priests in the Catholic church. It cannot be done because there is a definitive need to cover things up. Same with LEOs. Same with doctors.

NOBODY SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO ABUSE AND/OR KILL ANOTHER PERSON WITH IMPUNITY.

 

ALL people of ANY race are not criminals. ALL people of ANY race are not law-abiding and I never suggested they were. The problem is a minority is considered *guilty* FIRST and it has nothing to do with their response to cops. I would absolutely agree if minority doctors, lawyers, executives, etc. were NOT treated poorly, but they are.

Of course, it's asinine to think defunding the police is an answer to the problem.

It was an oversight if I missed something. Please point me to whatever you wanted me to read and I'll be happy to do so.

 

I would probably retire too if I was old enough and on the force, cops have to be exposed to this stuff daily

why work if you're in the at risk age group and you could retire

not sure how they can stop people from retiring

 

we want bad cops to retire or be fired, are you saying these are all bad cops?

 

You would attempt to play the apologist.

 

not true, I have been calling to end the failed war on drugs for years, it's time to stop funding gangs

the war on drugs makes cops lives harder, time to end it

cause the truth is, just like alcohol.... the abuse exists legal or not - prohibition just makes criminals of those that do not abuse

 

I've noticed that in the primarily Democratic run cities there has been both an appeasement and even enablement of the criminal element by the local politicians and self appointed SOCOBs (Selectively Offended Chronically Outraged Blacktavists).

In other words, criminal behavior such as arson, vandalism, assault and wanton destruction of public and private property is not only tolerated but rewarded in my nearby Richmond VA which has a Democratic mayor and a Democratic governor.

Since the message to nearby citizens is not only are the police unable to control the Richmond area's violent mobs but they're discouraged and even punished for attempting to do so.

The net result has been that regional citizens are arming themselves like never before. I've even had non gun owning neighbors who formerly favored more gun control ask me to help them select a firearm and teach them how to use it.

As it turns out, our anti gun mayor and anti gun governor have done more to encourage citizens to arm themselves than the NRA could ever hope to.

 

NO ONE HAS MADE THAT ARGUMENT.

 

Victims of police brutality have to PROVE they didn't cause the LEO's abuse and overreach of duties and they are facing a tougher challenge because the Blue Code of Silence usually means other cops and their supervisors will lie to protect them.

This doesn't just happen to minorities. It is a scenario that happens toward the poor. They don't have the resources to sue a department and unless they have audio and video proof, their complaints are ignored.

Unfortunately, some things have to be in someone's own backyard before they can understand how pervasive this problem is. Until then, people are going to continue to vilify the victims of police brutality and automatically assume they did something to cause it. That and rape are the only two crimes in which the victim has to PROVE they didn't bring it on themselves.

 

Police Departments represent yet another failed progressive era reform.
The RP should stop opposing the movement to defund and eliminate PDs, and start supporting replacing them with independent elected local Sheriffs Departments.

Start with an emergency plan to eliminate all gun control measures that interfere with Americans' right to carry firearms openly or concealed to quickly stop the slaughter on the streets in our DP run urban hell holes.

 

I don't assume I go by the evidence and how does the police officer know if I am rich or poor?

 

NYC is making it impossible to be a good cop. This guy is from a family that knows more about exerting force without undue violence or injury than any group in the world. It would be wise to consider his opinion.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=750750758995013

 

Cops all over the country would do well to look the other way for a few months and let the general public start their protests are the homes of their mayors and city clowncils.
Stop arresting anybody for any crime. Turn it all over to the councilors for the victims. That outta last about a week or two before something positive gets done.

 

Kind of a slow start to Chiraq’s weekend festivities.
19 shot, 4 fatally so far in Chicago weekend violence, police say
By ABC 7 Chicago Digital Team
Updated 32 minutes ago

So far this weekend, 19 people have been shot, 4 fatally -- including a 15-year-old boy -- in violence across the city, according to Chicago police.

 

The same way people, in general, "size" people up, looking at the type of vehicle, style of clothing, any jewelry, etc.

I am in no way saying that ALL LEOs are prejudiced. However, this is more than just a few bad apples. There are enough that this is a major problem. I have known several cops that were passed over for promotion or demoted or fired for not being willing to stand behind abusive cops' bad behavior and lie for them. Related to that, I know a paramedic that was fired because his partner told him to "slow down" as he attempted to save a black man's life. Soon after, he was fired for some made-up reasons when he refused to let a man die solely based on the color of his skin.

I can appreciate that the job is hard and they have a few seconds to make sense of a potentially volatile situation. However, that doesn't give them the right to abuse or neglect citizens.

 

Most people don't seem to understand that jails and prisons are FOR-PROFIT businesses.

 

Eerily predictive....and it's about to get worse. Much worse, with the retirements.

 

The underlined is my primary complaint about law enforcement. which is why I strongly support body cams everywhere.

 

Yep . . . plenty of Obama style community organizers ready to replace them and go and talk down and then council violent muggers, rapists, robbers, and spouse abusers in order to get everybody to hold hands and sing the Coca-Cola song in perfect harmony. It will be a lovely leftist future for the Rotten -- er -- Big Apple.

 

I agree. The only people that oppose the police cams already know they will show the ongoing problems. We should expect more "equipment failures" as cops try to hide their illegal behaviors/actions. They won't be able to lie and spin for one another.

And, it's not all one-sided. There have been some cases in which a murdered LEO's killer/s have been identified. No more "He said, she said" all around. Why would any law-abiding citizen or non-abusive LEO have any problem with that? They wouldn't.

 

Prediction: Red Alert!!!! (No specific number)

Not only retirements, but the budget cuts have eliminated plans for 1,163 new hires to replace the retirees.

Here is the NYC crime summary for the month of June:





For the month of June 2020, the number of people victimized by gun violence and murder in New York City spiked significantly, when compared to the same period in 2019. Between June 1 and June 30, there was a 130% increase in the number of shooting incidents across the city (205 v. 89) as the number of shootings rose in every borough of New York. The number of people murdered citywide increased to 39 v. 30, (+ 30%) for the month, while the number of burglaries increased to 1,783 v. 817 (+118%) and the number of auto thefts increased to 696 v. 462 (+51%) citywide.

While the NYPD has made approximately 40,000 fewer overall arrests so far this year compared with last year, gun arrests year-to-date as of July 5 are 1,679 vs. 1,683. We have also seen the impacts of legislative mandates sending offenders no longer eligible for bail back to the streets where they are being regularly rearrested and contributing to overall crime in the city.

Ongoing Challenges: The NYPD is enduring a round of deep budget cuts that have led to a class of 1,163 recruits being canceled. The department has also seen an increase in retirements.

https://www1.nyc.gov/site/nypd/news/pr0706/nypd-citywide-crime-statistics-june-2020