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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    it's a fact, which of the recent cases of black men was not predicated by their resisting arrest and fighting with police and refusing to comply with their lawful orders?
     
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    Big Bad Government always disarms the people.
     
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    No they don't.
    Not 1 republican called for tRUMPs HR people to be fired or jailed for hiring illegals.

    The illegals that were working were only let go from employment from tRUMP companies. They were not deported nor did any R call for them to be deported.

    Our meat packing facilities moved out of cities with union workers to small cities and immigrants, legal and illegal, to do the meat processing.
    Many in R communities and states. Like Iowa and SD.

    You never asked a question. I can't answer a question that isn't asked.
     
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    A slow weekend by Chicago standards.

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    At Least 50 Shot So Far In Chicago Weekend Shootings, Including 8 Deaths
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    More spending is definitely not the answer. There’s plenty of money for schools. The problem is that public schools are democratically run into the ground of failure.
    OPINION
    Defund the Police? How About Defunding the Schools Instead? | Opinion
    CYNTHIA GARRETT
    ON 6/16/20 AT 1:56 PM EDT

    Baltimore's public schools ranked third among the nation's 100 biggest school systems in spending on a per-student basis in 2017, at $16,184 per pupil, up seven percent from the year before. What was the return on investment? A headline from The Baltimore Sun in 2018 said it all: "Baltimore Students Score Near Bottom in Reading, Math on Key National Assessment."
     
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    To hell with you holding Trumps businesses to standards you blatantly ignore for all other companies. That hypocrisy bullshit will end this discussion. Be consistent or don't respond. When have you or anyone else called for another companies HR people to be fired over the hiring of illegals? Again, to hell with the lefts hypocrisy.

    The right clearly doesn't want illegals coming here in the first place so of course they're against them working here as well. What the hell has the left done or even proposed that shows they care?
     
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    New and different cops that like being disrespected?

    Are masochistic cops the future of law enforcement?
     
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    Real school reform: Transfer control of that school budget to the parents and guardians of children and empower them to liberate and employ the teachers directly.
     
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    When the people are well armed police will not have to carry arms to be respected. The uniform and badge will be enough. Of course, detectives should always be armed.
    Repealing half of the abusive laws that only armed police can enforce would also be another good start toward restoring law and order.
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're right.
    More money spent on participation trophies and teaching-to-the-test has clearly not left younger Americans any better educated or improved their critical thinking skills(1).

    My overall point was that wasting money on feel-good-do-nothing distractions is not going to help those who claim to be among the "disenfranchised", endangered and oppressed or those who have been so dismally failed by a broken education system.


    (1) "50 Hilarious Times Students Took Stupidity To The Another Level"
    https://www.boredpanda.com/professo...oogle&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic
     
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    I am always consistent.
    I use tRUMP because he at present is the leader of the R party.
    It is the R party constantly whining about illegal immigrants. Why is hypocrisy because they don't do anything to the illegals when caught or the companies when caught.

    In fact, that's how I know the R party is full of BS on the subject of illegal immigration.
    If one wants to end it fast, fine the employers. Take away the jobs that they come here for, and the will not come here. I have said this for years.
    The reason the majority come here is to work. Don't give them work and the majority don't come in the 1st place.
    But then parts of our economy will suffer quite a bit.

    But that doesn't happen.
     
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    I agree completely about taking away the jobs/going after employers etc. My point is simply don't act like the democrat party cares either. I seriously doubt you'd be calling out the sitting president's businesses if they were a democrat and someone you supported in the same way you're calling out trump and his businesses.

    Conservatives care a lot more about stopping illegal immigration than republicans in government. Republicans in DC do not, regardless of what they say, represent their voter base on this issue. In fact, neither do democrats as the country is largely in agreement when it comes to illegal immigration.
     
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    The dem care about what?
    They are the one's who would like immigration reform. So we don't have these illegal undocumented people in the country.
    They also know our country depends of migrant workers. They just seem to want to make it easier for them to attain some form of citizenship.

    IMO, the elites, want them undocumented. It is cheaper labor. Cash type payments. No SSI, FDIC, vacations, healthcare etc.
    So if they remain illegal, they remain off the payroll, so to speak. But, IMO.

    The country is not doubt in agreement about illegal immigrants.
    That is why nothing meaningful has been done since Reagan.
     
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    I meant don't act like the democrat party cares about illegal immigration.

    Where's the evidence they democrat party wants immigration reform. What bills are they proposing? The democrats support for sanctuary cities also shows much of the left has no problem with them being here illegally. The democrat parties actions don't mirror what you're saying here.

    I can see some who would want them undocumented. Anybody who is profiting off of their cheap labor could want them here illegally. However, that isn't even close to a significant percentage of the country. The majority of the country loses money off of illegals being here.

    https://thehill.com/latino/441296-p...ion-at-southern-border-is-a-crisis-or-serious

    I actually didn't even think it was this high. The people in this country want it stopped. Congress sits year in and year out and does nothing.
     
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    I am not a D, so I don't know what they really push for.
    But they want DACA people not sent back to a country they haven't been a part of since babies or kids.

    Here is a statement from their website.

    Democrats will continue to work toward comprehensive immigration reform that fixes our nation’s broken immigration system, improves border security, prioritizes enforcement so we are targeting criminals – not families, keeps families together, and strengthens our economy.

    Democrats know the importance of our country’s history as a nation of immigrants. We honor our fundamental values by treating all people who come to the United States with dignity and respect, and we always seek to embrace — not to attack — immigrants.
    https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/the-issues/immigration-reform/

    I don't think the amount of people not wanting them here is as high as you think. Mostly R's don't want them here. The people that is. The party knows they need to be here.
    Congress won't do anything. As I said, they know they are vital to keeping the economy working.
    They haven't done anything since Reagan. As I also said. And IMO, it's because they know sending them back will mean portions of our economy won't function because they won't get Americans to do them or they will need to pay way more than they want to pay.

    The illegal immigration problem, is by design. Again, IMO.
     
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    First off, we're talking about illegal immigration. We're not limiting the discussion to daca.

    Democrats have not worked towards anything. They've proposed nothing.

    Anybody can put a nice slogan on a website. It means nothing without actions. And as I've said, the democrats support for sanctuary cities makes it clear where they stand.

    The right is against illegal immigration, period. The right thinks immigrants should come here legally. Nothing more nothing less. Nobody is against them being here as a people. Asking that they do it legally is reasonable. The left twists that into racism, it isn't.

    The polls speak for themselves, the people of this country do not want people here illegally. If the economy is so dependent on a certain number of workers being here, we have options for that....legal options.
     
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    DACA people according to the RW are illegal. Most of the RW base want them deported.
    I am not sure how many times I must repeat.

    Our system wants illegal immigrants.
    That is why not a damn thing has been done on illegal immigration in 40 yrs.

    I care less about D or R policy. They have no policy except the Rs want to waste vast amounts of money on a mostly useless wall. It's political BS to a base.

    When you and I agree, the best and certainly cheapest way to almost stop illegal immigration is to take the jobs away. Fine the illegal employers who hire them.
     
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    What those cops who can't file for Retirement should do is all claim PTSD and not have to work.
     
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    Democrat leaders only care about one thing when it concerns immigrants. They only look at future votes. They don't give a crap about the actual people, their lives or future.
     
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    I see. Got any more stories you'd like to make up?
     
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    I understand your point, but I think you are missing mine. Moving away from police brutality, let's consider the same idea with psychotherapy. A mental health professional can say just about anything about their client because the client is on a different playing field. It doesn't matter if the therapist is abusive or wrong or outright evil. Almost ALWAYS, their word will be accepted over a client's statement.

    In the same vein, police write their own reports and their supervisors sign off on them. Do you honestly expect someone to document "Beat the crap out of somebody for doing nothing but existing."? It's ridiculous to think that EVERY single case of police brutality (toward any race) started with someone not complying with police orders. I've seen it happen enough times that it haunts my dreams.
     

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