Obama’s Spying Scandal Is Starting To Look A Lot Like Watergate

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  1. goofball

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    Is there a reason you are embarrassed to list them? I think there is.
     
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    Wheres that link of Russian Guilty pleas to Collusion?

    Try not to fall into Natty's World of the Play Doh. Just sayin.
     
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    Uh yep, and the same reason Natty was playing with the Play Doh.

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    You mean Congress which has been stonewalled by both the DOJ and the FBI? Nonetheless they have discovered things that warrants investigating just how much leftist and RINO politics played a part in the spying on -- and then investigation of --Trump; an investigation that cannot be stopped by either the Left nor their RINO political allies at this point.
     
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    Hmmm ... a Fast & Furious cover-up strategy meeting? I don't see Amy Berman Jackson though. :confuse:
     
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    No this was started when the FBI started an illegal investigation into Trump and Papadopoulos who was a low level nobody was used to legitimize an investigation that was already happening.
     
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    They found enough to get the IG to investigate how the FBI lied to the FISA court to get the initial warrant to spy on the Trump campaign.

    You really should read something besides Huffpo sometime.
     
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    They probably couldn't fit her in, due the Islam convert Brennan being a fat pudgy rolly polly space taker upper.:lol:
     
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    It's normal FBI procedure to start an investigation into a candidate that a sitting president wants to dig up dirt on? Normal in the Russian KGB maybe but not the FBI.
     
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    In the days of the cold war I was willing to turn a blind eye to CIA tactics but when they start using those tactics to install a president they choose it crosses a line.
     
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    It there a reason you prefer to appeal to ignorance of the issues, but not right wing propaganda?
     
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    Your analysis is sound, but you've overlooked the fact that Carter Page was Halpers 1st target. Before Halper began priming Papadopoulos, he went after Carter, who despite the denials, served as an FBI informant during a successful Russian spy ring investigation. Carter wasn't only cleared by the FBI in 2013, he was instrumental in the gathering of key evidence that secured the conviction.
     
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    The mood of the public is switching because it's becoming obvious that the Mueller investigation is an impeachment investigation aimed at overturning an election the establishment can't abide and the public sees Trump doing a bang up job and wants him left alone.
     
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    I'll take your inane response as an admission you are embarrassed to list the convictions Mueller has.
     
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    Where that link to the guilty pleas to Russian Collusion.....Still waiting. <<<<<Taps foot. Cmon now.....put your money where your mouth is, I promise I wont take it.
     
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    The Trump cult becomes very upset when folks fail to kowtow to their messiah's lies.

    When reporter Serge Kovaleski didn't back up his phony tale of thousands of invisible people cheering terrorism in New Jersey, Trump became enraged and cruelly mocked him.

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    Then, when his disgusting behaviour was condemned, his bum kissers actually tried to deny he had done it.

    Maybe, he could viciously mimic Dan Coats, Devin Nunes, Trey Gowdy, and all others who refused to give legitimacy to his fake, diversionary nonsense.

    Yeah! That's it! That's the ticket!​
     
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    Liberals will be shocked to hear this. Yes, I finally agree. You’ve won over Wayne Root with evidence and common sense. It’s time to impeach the president.

    However, it’s not President Donald Trump I’m talking about. It’s time to impeach former President Barack Obama. And, of course, prosecute him, too.

    Many are starting to come to this conclusion. Tom Fitton, the legal genius behind Judicial Watch (the No. 1 government watchdog in America), has come to this position. Fitton said last week that amidst a climate of impeachment fervor, the actual evidence points to Obama’s actions warranting impeachment far more than Trump’s. Fitton reports that ordering surveillance and sending spies into the Trump presidential campaign are all grounds for post-presidency impeachment and, more importantly, prosecution.

    None other than greatly respected former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer said last week, “I guarantee the answer is yes” as to whether Obama knew the FBI had planted spies into the Trump campaign. He said no FBI director would dare infiltrate a presidential campaign without the direct approval and authorization of the sitting president.

    I believe Obama didn’t just authorize illegal spying, surveillance and FISA warrants based on fraud, paid for by Hillary and the Democratic National Committee. I believe he ordered it all.

    Somehow this must all be getting through. Despite 93 percent negative news coverage from the mainstream media, President Trump is sitting pretty at 50 percent approval at Rasmussen (the most accurate pollster of the 2016 election). More shockingly, Reuters’ generic congressional poll has shifted. In February, Democrats were winning by 16 points. Last week, Republicans were ahead by 6 points. Yes, I said Republicans are now leading by 6 points.

    That’s a 22-point swing in a matter of months. And a 9-point swing in a week. The supposed “blue wave” is finished.

    Why do you think this is? Because the average American now understands what happened. It wasn’t Trump who did something wrong. I propose he was framed by Obama, Hillary and their minions in the D.C. Swamp (FBI, DOJ, CIA and NSA).

    But far worse is the reason for the framing. First, I believe Obama had a personal hatred and obsession with Trump — for daring to ask questions about his birth certificate, place of birth and college records. Second, Obama was on the hook for his own misdeeds: spying, surveillance and the criminal weaponization of government agencies such as the IRS. And he was also on the hook for allowing Hillary’s crimes, including the Uranium One deal, in which the Clinton Foundation received $140 million in donations from Russia.


    https://www.reviewjournal.com/opini...tary-the-heat-gets-turned-up-on-barack-obama/
     
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    Because the putty melts in da hot heat. :lol:
     
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    guilty pleas. are you claiming total innocence from Your guy?
     
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    In 2015 the OIG requested oversight and it was Sally Yates who responded with a lengthy 58-page legal explanation saying, essentially, ‘nope – not allowed.’ (PDF HERE) All of the DOJ is subject to oversight, except the NSD.
    So where does this leave us?…
    Occam’s Razor: The FISA Title I surveillance authority over Carter Page was cover, most likely retroactive cover, for the DOJ and FBI conducting surveillance on the Trump campaign. Previous to the October 21st, 2016, FISA Warrant the FBI was limited to using illegal searches of FISA(702)(16)(17) FBI and NSA databases {see here}; and according to the New York Times: “National Security Letters”.
    National Security Letters are a type of administrative subpoena designed to allow the FBI to access the records of people suspected of being foreign agents. Section 505 of the Patriot Act expanded the FBI’s ability to use these subpoenas: FBI agents now only have to state that the information sought is “relevant” to a national security investigation in order to obtain sensitive financial, communications and other personal records. The letters are issued by FBI field offices and are not subject to judicial oversight. Recipients of these letters are under a gag order. (link)
    https://theconservativetreehouse.co...erations-carter-page-and-george-papadopoulos/
     
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    What convictions, and for what specific crimes? Why do you keep running away from Mueller's supposed history-making convictions?

    Hehe.
     
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    Hmmmm Sally yates out looking to make the rounds. All due to being fired, huh?


    Steve Hilton: "Sufficient Reasons To Think" Intel Services Acted To Thwart Trump's Election

    FOX News' Steve Hilton says there is enough suspicion to believe that "the establishment in the government bureaucracy" took steps to prevent a Trump presidency. Hilton also called for an investigation "equivalent" to the Mueller probe into possible deep state meddling on Wednesday's broadcast of the Special Report panel.

    STEVE HILTON, FOX NEWS HOST: It wasn't that long ago that the left and parts of the establishment media, I'm thinking in particular The New York Times, were deeply suspicious of what we now describe as the 'deep state.' When we had James Clapper going to Congress and lying about surveilling the American people. There this suspicion of the security services and the intelligence agencies. And now that they seem to be against Trump we're supposed to believe that they're purer-than-pure, everything they say is gospel and there is no ground for any suspicion. …..snip~

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...services_acted_to_thwart_trumps_election.html
     
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    Me too given we were fighting against a communist revolution and didn't want that crap to spread. But they crossed the line when they spied on their own oversight committee for god's sake! Number one, they are not supposed to conduct operations within US borders. Number two, spying on their own oversight committee is banana republic behavior, and usurps our constitution.

    And then schumer telling the world that trump better watch it for the CIA can take a president down 6 ways from sunday!! Too...much.. G.D. power to be put into the hands of professional liars who operate in secrecy. Remember how Hoover got sex tapes on congressmen and perhaps even presidents so he could insure he stayed director of the fbi? The CIA is more powerful than the FBI, IMO. And I see little oversight, but a rubber stamp committee.
     
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    Yeah I don't like that **** about the CIA having its own para military force. In NAM a few of their Ops got their asses stomped for opening their mouths more than they should have.

    Brennan needs to be taken to task for getting involved in a US Election. He shouldn't even be out talking ****.
     
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    I very, very seldom peruse either Huffpo or the Daily Stormer, but like to check in on both camps occasionally.

     

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