Obama’s Spying Scandal Is Starting To Look A Lot Like Watergate

Bullshit. If they were NOT spying on the Trump campaign, why didn't the Hillary Campaign get the same "protection" after they COVERTLY PAID MILLIONS to CONTACT THE RUSSIANS?

 

Except the actual evidence doesn't bare out their claims. We have the hacking incident, suspiciously un-investigated but what we do have from Mueller is the Fluff Case, and it's specifically pointed out that these ads not only were pro-Clinton, but sometimes anti-Clinton or Pro-Sanders, or even Pro-Stein. Then the 'suspicion' that American voters were lulled by these ads, is absolutely unproven with no attempt to prove it. Because it's a negative.

The Senate Intel Committee is a disgrace upon itself, and the intelligence community even more of a disgrace to enable anti-American propaganda on US Soil.

The only thing they can say is that there was Russian interference, but they can't logically assign motive to people they've never met, much less investigated.

It's a sham of propaganda, and you can believe it if you want but the evidence betrays their propaganda.

 

That didn't happen.
His wires weren't tapped. No suggestion at all that Trump was personally a target. Not one shred of evidence that Obama directed any of this.

And anyway the "deed" would not be evidence of the reason behind it. If the reason was the investigation of actual crimes - like money laundering a la Manafort - how can you complain?

I will wait for and accept the Mueller and IG reports. Both of them. No matter what they say.

Will you?

Edit - glad to see this thread has been moved to conspiracy theories, where it belongs.

 

Since they didn't inform Trump he may have a Russian agent in his campaign they were obviously spying on Trump himself. Surly they would have told Trump not to trust this supposed agent with state secrets if they were not spying on him. Their story doesn't hold water and no I won't accept these bogus findings of an investigation meant to get Trump out of office

 

Not yet. You know, the line preached about the Mueller investigation? We know for an absolute fact for example that the FBI agents who submitted the false FISA application committed Perjury. They committed Perjury, possibly in two ways.

1) In submitting falsified evidence(the Dossier) to the Court, they lied to the Court. Even with the footnote, evidence that's falsified is still a lie.
2) Even if we somehow submit that the submission was legal(good luck with that one. Their lawyers will need it), they still couldn't stop lying in that the FISA Application has various conditions to be invoked. 1)To be a Spy, 2) To be a terrorist 3)To be a threat to the United States.

The fact that Page has not been so much as arranged, much less convicted of a crime means that the Application is being falsely applied. That has consequences for the recused Judge who also faces legal repercussions for enabling deceit in the Court room.

Why do you think Sessions appointed Prosecutor Huber? There will be charges. Not maybe, not "if", crimes HAVE been committed against the President and America.

There's other, more lengthier things we can go into. I can make a legal argument that the Agents who submitted the application committed Obstruction of Justice. Remember that one? Yeah, the Agents are much closer than Trump. Obstruction, involves the planting of false evidence to otherwise mislead or misguide the Court(or any Law Enforcement Official actually.)

The players who have been named are royally and truly screwed. And they did it all to themselves.

 

Certainly not to your claim.

 

Peter Strozk and Lisa Page (FBI Officials) were texting about laying out a path for Andy (What Andy would be their supervisor) and the need for an insurance policy against a Trump victory. At about the same time an FBI informant was infiltrating the Trump campaign. Here's the parallel, Nixon's crew broke into the Democrat National committee HQ in the Watergate Hotel and planted bugs. The Obama administration's FBI used a phony collusion story as cover to insert a spy. Same effect different method. Special prosecutor is more than in order here to find out if any laws were broken.

 

You keep saying this over and over again as if it is true.
It isn't. It is a falsehood.

If you say it is true, please back it up with some actual evidence.

 

Conflating 'lying' and the Fluff case to the larger question of Russian Collusion is not deceptive to us.(not even question, at this point to us we both know it's fiction that was inappropriately used to try and undermine Trump and then later turned into the political operation to BAG Trump)

Speaking of which, does anyone remember when HRC complained about Trump's calls for arresting her for CRIMES she committed, that the scumbag who once called himself FBI Director covered up?

She said that it was a 'threat' to our institution of democracy that we would use law enforcement to settle political disputes. Well now, interestingly enough the prior Administration is now CAUGHT doing just that. So should we hold them to their own standards or no?

 

Excellent definition of the Papadopoulos escapade.

 

There is NO Concrete evidence to date that shows Trump or his campaign colluded with the Russians. However there is more than enough evidence that the Hillary Campaign did pay for the Steele Dossier through Perkins & Coie and Fusion GPS. In fact under oath the CEO of Fusion GPS Glenn Simpson stated that a spy (ies) were embedded within the Trump Campaign.

10 Takeaways From Glenn Simpson's Fusion GPS Senate Testimony
http://thefederalist.com/2018/01/10/10-takeaways-from-glenn-simpsons-fusion-gps-senate-testimony/
Sen. Dianne Feinstein released a semi-redacted transcript of testimony Fusion GPS co ... a source within the Trump campaign. ... was not done under oath, ..."While the testimony is full of details, far and away the most interesting revelation was Simpson’s claim that the FBI had a source within the Trump campaign. Simpson said that Christopher Steele, the freelance spy paid for dispatches about Trump, was told by an FBI official that they had a confidential informant in the Trump campaign. This “human source from inside the Trump organization” was acting in a “voluntary” manner. It was someone “who decided to pick up the phone and report something.”"

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But the spy remained after Trump was elected and so did the supposed Russian agent. If the FBI truly thought Trump's team had been infiltrated by a Russian agent why wasn't he informed of that? The answer is there was no Russian agent and they were spying on Trump.

 

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Agreed. The spy/informant was assigned and paid to infiltrate the Trump campaign. The Progressive Left may parse the word spy vs. informant but it all boils down to the Obama administration and pro Hillary factions weaponizing Intelligence and DOJ agencies in an aim to undermine the Trump campaign for political reasons.

 

Your being pissy doesn't change the reality that there is no evidence of your messiah's "Spygate!" paranoid pr diversion.

According to a Washington Post fact check tally,
Trump has made over 3,000 false or misleading claims
since being sworn in.

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For anyone interested in the facts this is a very good explanation of how Trump's paranoid fantasy was occasioned by his watching crap on tv.​

 

Your desperate diversion fails. The FBI, NSA, CIA, Republican-run Senate Intelligence Committee, and Trump Secretary of State all acknowledge that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election to help Trump and hurt Clinton. Trump's agents repeated held secret meeting with Putin's people during the campaign - about which the Trumpies lied - becomes an obvious concern in defending US security.

Trump insider Bam Bam Bannon:

Former White House strategist Steve Bannon called a meeting between President Trump’s son Donald Jr. and a group of Russians “treasonous” and “unpatriotic,” according to a report Wednesday.After reports revealed the meeting at Trump Tower in June 2016, Bannon reacted with disbelief...

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“The three senior guys in the campaign thought it was a good idea to meet with a foreign government inside Trump Tower in the conference room on the 25th floor — with no lawyers. They didn’t have any lawyers ...Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad s–t, and I happen to think it’s all of that, you should have called the FBI immediately!” ​

 

Now you are back to assuming.....you really do need to read those links. This way you won't appear to not be in the knowing.

The only reality Right now is, your but but but Mueller has come up with no Russian Collusion concerning Trump.

 

A hostile foreign power interfering in America's democratic process to help Trump and hurt Clinton has been exposed by the FBI, NSA, and CIA, and affirmed by the Republican-run Senate Intelligence Committee.

The Trump Justice Department's Republican Special Counsel must be allowed to pursue the matter without interference in the interests of national security. Any incidental impact upon any politician in that undertaking is of comparatively little significance.

Obviously, there are those who fear the truth emerging, but they must not be allowed to quash the patriotic mission.

 

Who told you that Trump had a Russian agent in his campaign?

Just because it was exposed that Putin conspired to help Trump and hurt Clinton in the 2016 presidential campaign, and Trump's senior campaign officials repeatedly met in secret with Putin's operatives, does not mean there were any Russian agents who infiltrated Trump's campaign.

If there was no collusion or obstruction of justice, that is what a thorough investgation by the Trump Justice Department's Republican Special Counsel will establish.

Nothing else will.

 

Thanks. Good job.

 

The narcissist's bum kissers must have loved their messiah's loathsome perversion of Memorial Day.

They worship one sick dude.

VoteVets
✔@votevets
This is the most inappropriate #MemorialDay comment that a @POTUS has ever made. Self-promotion on a day to remember the fallen, and wishing those remembering their deceased loved ones a “happy” holiday is appalling. #CadetBoneSpurs
9:40 AM - May 28, 2018​

"Cadet Bone Spurs" is a nickname given to Trump over his multiple Vietnam War draft deferments by Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.), a veteran who lost both her legs while serving in Iraq. ​

VoteVets was responding to Trump's morning tweet, in which he said fallen service members “would be very happy” with how the country is doing today.​

Donald J. Trump‏
Verified account @realDonaldTrump
Happy Memorial Day! Those who died for our great country would be very happy and proud at how well our country is doing today. Best economy in decades, lowest unemployment numbers for Blacks and Hispanics EVER (& women in 18years), rebuilding our Military and so much more. Nice!
5:58 AM - 28 May 2018​

Other social media users also criticized Trump for using the holiday as a way to boast about himself.

 

At least he remembered.....what about the leftness' and their excuses.

 

If they weren't spying.....why would they now be saying they were trying to protect Trump.

You would think the leftness would have realized how lame that excuse is.

 

Conservative Republicans are sickened by this obscene demeaning of those who gave their lives in service to the nation by making it an excuse for shameless self-aggrandizement.

"This is perhaps the most disgusting Trump tweet ever," tweeted Nate Bell, a conservative Arkansas politician also known for controversial remarks. "Memorial Day is a solemn day to reflect on the memories of those who paid the ultimate sacrifice for freedom, liberty & justice for all. It's NOT a 'Happy' day nor is it a day to tout your draft dodging 'bone spurs' self."

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-memorial-day-2018-remarks-slammed-critics-946322
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O Happy Day!, indeed. The degenerate is clueless.

 

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Your feeble "whataboutism" attempt at diversion fails.

A respectful commemoration by a decorated veteran who now serves the nation in Congress:

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"IT'S A HAPPY DAY ABOUT ME!"​