Obama asserts Executive Privilege over Fast & Furious, Part II

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  1. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because Holder only knew about it as far as sounding good.Then of course you call his bluff
    and ask how did he know and please provide Proof with documentation { Senator Grassley}
    Then of course Holder retracted fast than Clark Kent getting ready for a hot date.
     
  2. OverDrive

    OverDrive Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Too bad another crooked Chicago politician (Blago) didnt have this option..plus, he has better hair that Obama..
     
  3. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    [video=youtube;TFrApLNmjtk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFrApLNmjtk[/video]
     
  4. BroncoBilly

    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What is even more pathetic are the lemmings that will drown in his sinking ship no matter how crooked he is.

    Obama can't stand up to take a pee, so he is clearly not the adult even in the bathroom. Get used to him being an empty suit loser, and get your cheese ready for your whine come this November.
     
  5. onalandline

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    First of all, it is fact that Fast & Furious was an illegal botched operation. Second, it is fact that Eric Holder is uncooperative and stalling the investigation. Third, Obama is implicating himself by using executive priviledge. Let's be perfectly clear here for you limited liberals: Nothing of what happened in Arizona is going to doom Obama. His AG, and his own actions will doom him. Fox News, CBS, and a few others are the only ones covering this in detail. The rest of the lame stream media are Obama kiss-asses, and choose to downplay or ignore this.
     
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    Good find, my friend. The icing on the cake, is that stimulus funds were used for this.
     
  7. Radio Refugee

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    WTF was 'botched'? I gotsta know what DIDN'T go according to plan.
     
  8. onalandline

    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The public found out about it, that's what.
     
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  9. JIMV

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    That is not quite right...the old media has almost completely ignored the scandal so as to insure the average citizen had never heard of it or simply put it off to partisanship. The issue came to a head because the new document dump would seriously embarrass both Holder and Obama. The damage of declaring executive privilege was far less than having those documents surface before the election...

    Think about it...what would the independent think if it became clear that people had been killed, including Americans, in pursuit of a political scheme to grow gun control laws, laws the public does not want and the Constitution might prohibit?
     
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    Obama only need to cover it up till November...
     
  11. Radio Refugee

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    [Kinison] Gooood answer [/Kinison]
     
  12. JIMV

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    The Kooks are asking two simple questions...what was the actual purpose of a program that forced US gun dealers to sell arms to folk they new were buying illegally and did not have any serious tracking program associated with it aside from flooding Mexico with US guns and...Was the program a political scheme geared to justify new gun control laws...

    I believe Holder and Obama were involved in the scheme, either in approving it or in trying to hide it and I believe the papers being hidden prove it.
     
  13. JP5

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    What I don't get is that invoking Executive Privilege is done to protect the White House....the president....and his ability to deliberate and get candid advice from his advisors.....without fear that it will go public. The thought is that a president MUST be able to talk candidly and seek advice candidly among his advisors.

    BUT this is documents the Congress is trying to get from the AG's Office. Last time I looked, the Executive Branch and the Judicial Branch are two separate branches of government. The AG dept is not part of the WH and vice versa. So, what is the president doing invoking EP over this? According to Holder during the hearings he said the president knew nothing about it.

    So, what are they trying to cover up?
     
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    For the record, the AG is a part of the Executive Branch. They are the Government's attorneys, not the Government's judges.

    We agree otherwise. ;)
     
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    Got a few more minutes. That is the $64,000 question, that many in the blogosphere, and in responsible talk radio, and elsewhere, are having fun with.

    As many here have well-documented, and i will bet you a dollar to a donut, its that FF was about manipulating the gun control argument. Holder was complicit from the beginning. OBama at least in the cover-up. Obama thinks he is omnipotent ... but he and Holder thought they WERE REALLY OMNIPOTENT in 2009.

    The truth of this, if ever out, would bring down Holder ...... and Obama.

    Bet the house that Issa and all the GOP know this. There are folks in ATF and DoJ who have been as singing canaries to Issa. They know. Issa may even have some improperly purloined documents. Watergate, with a WILLING PRESS, still took about a year to get traction.

    The November election, or the truth about FF. Whichever comes first. Obama goes down.
     
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    Just like Obama was going down the twenty times before this?

    After nothing happens, what excuse are you guys going to use? It pays to be prepared. Issa is shooting blank again, as he has with every other "scandal". Given Issa's track record of failure in that record, what makes you guys believe this time is different?
     
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    Well, for starters, that liberals were idiots yesterday, idiots today, and will be idiots tomorrow.

    Hey, what is more important, being a Democrat, or being an American, when faced with a conflict between the two ?
     
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    This scandal is beyond doubt. It is wide open. The Obama Administration is standing in the way.
     
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    You can't see me...

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    Isssa the car theif.. the arsonist... the criminal political hack.. investigating other criminal political hacks...Expecting results from this fonkey cluster muck is like expecting the mexican government to crack down on Cartels
     
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    The department of justice isn't part of the judicial branch its part of the executive branch, only the Supreme court is part of the Judicial branch.

    So he is legitimately looking out for his brother in this instance and can invoke that privilege
     
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    Except that there are NO communications with the White House,if we are to believe Obama "had no knowledge" of F & F...how can he invoke Executive Priviledge. TO "look out for his bro' " is not a legit reason....
     
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    So you are OK with Holder sending thousands of unaccounted assault rifles into Mexico willy-nilly. Killing hundreds of Mexicans. And two US agent in America. And the lies and the cover-up.

    Your retarded BS about Issa is what matters here ?

    <spit>
     
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    If Holder and Obama knew nothing - like Sgt. Schultz on Hogan's Hero's - then there are no deliberations to protect.

    The Obama supporters are being taken for a ride in the sense that Holder is blaming the fiasco on some lower level employee while at the same time refusing to say who the employee is.
     

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