Obama: Fund My Amnesty Or I’ll Shut Down The Government

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  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seems the gop might is still be more interested in "getting Obama" than it is in responsible governance.

    the government doesn't shut down if there is no budget. IIRC, the right has constantly criticized the lack of a budget for the past 4 or 5 years, heaping blame and excoriation of Obama because of it.

    Now if the gop attempts yet again to add riders to the continuing funding resolution, then by not having an unconditional resolution they are in fact forcing Obama to block the establishing precedent that the continuing operations of the government can be held for partisan ransom. Exactly the same story that led to the last shutdown. Einstein's definition sure had it pegged.
     
  2. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    43% of Latinos disagree with Obama's executive amnesty and 48% support it.

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    Obama is the poster boy for IRRESPONSIBLE governance.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My how you love to regurgitate those meaningless bumper stickers.
     
  4. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Awww you just don't like them because they are true.
     
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    I'd call it someone who is not up to speed on the whole issue, but that's just me. See, being here illegally is not always a criminal act, and even when that residence results from a crime, it's a misdemeanor, hardly the stuff of hard core criminals. Next, the "criminals" as you call them, are not forgiven at all if they have committed a crime and they are still liable to be deported by this president or any succeeding one. I don't know what you mean by "access to social services" since they are not eligible for many benefits, such as food stamps, Medicaid and similar type programs.
     
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    When did a misdemeanor become 'not a crime'.........their kids are eligible for food stamps and they eat at the same table. When they go to the hospital who pays? Who pays for the ESL teachers for their kids that don't learn English. The answer is me.......and I'm friggin' tired of paying for all this crap.
     
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    If he shuts down the Government, there will be hell to pay with the cubicle rats.
     
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    And there you go again, the government didn't shut down because continuing resolutions were passed which kept the previous budgets going, it was not a "there was no budget" in place.

    That is SOP, it is Obama who was trying to set precedent that legislation must be clean with no amendments and he did so to force a shutdown which he did.

    What we have now is the hypocracy of the left. When the Democrats controlled two of the three legs on the stool of power their position was that since they had that majority control their budget should prevail and if the Republican minority position did not agree they were the ones shutting down government, now that it is reversed and the Republicans have majority power and pass their budget and the minority party doesn't agree then it is again the Republicans shutting down government. I would have thought with your political awareness you would have caught on to this.

    The fact is it is the Republicans who have always been willing to negotiate, to go to reconciliation and/or the WH to negotiate with Democrats. It is the Democrats and particularly Obama who refused telling them that elections had consequences and the Democrats won. Well they didn't last election did they.
     
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    Fine. Without again discussing "what the meaning of the word is is" let's assume unlawful presence is the lesser of two evils. Let's then deal with the criminals that illegal aliens are, throw them all out and lock the border. Once we do that, let's deal with the lesser of two evils. OK with you?
     
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    Politifacts Obama Broken Promises


    Reduce the Veterans Benefits Administration claims backlog

    No signing statements to nullify instructions from Congress

    Create a foreclosure prevention fund for homeowners

    Provide option for a pre-filled-out tax form

    Create a mortgage interest tax credit for non-itemizers

    Create a retirement savings tax credit for low incomes

    End income tax for seniors making less than $50,000

    End no-bid contracts above $25,000

    Create a $60 billion bank to fund roads and bridges

    Tax carried interest as ordinary income

    Lift the payroll tax cap on earnings above $250,000

    Forbid companies in bankruptcy from giving executives bonuses

    Allow workers to claim more in unpaid wages and benefits in bankruptcy court

    Require full disclosure of company pension investments to employees

    Allow imported prescription drugs

    Prevent drug companies from blocking generic drugs

    As far as I know Obama has allowed this to garner support from the Drug Makers for Obama Care.

    Allow Medicare to negotiate for cheaper drug prices

    Appoint federal-level coordinator to oversee all federal autism efforts

    Double federal funding for cancer research

    Direct the Secretary of Health and Human Services to conduct a study of federal cancer initiatives

    Provide the CDC $50 million in funding to determine effective approaches for cancer patient care

    Clarify legal status for defense contractor personnel

    Improve port security through better radiation detection

    If the U.S. is ever attacked with a nuclear weapon, it won't come from a ICBM or Bomber. They'll send it on a container ship and drive it to where they want to detonate it.

    Require companies to disclose personal information data breaches

    They don't have to with HealthCare.gov

    Tougher rules against revolving door for lobbyists and former officials

    This is only some from the first three pages of six total. He's got a lot of knocking to do in the next 2 years doesn't he.

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    In 2013 the left said it would destroy the Republicans come the 2014 mid-term. How'd that work out for ya?
     
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    and how would you propose that be done?

    ABC?
    CBS?
    NBC?
    NPR?
    NY Times?
    WAPO?
    LA Times?
    CNN?
    MSNBC?
    Boston Globe?
    Miami Herald?

    do you get the point?

    What a sad state of affairs when the media has become the PR arm for the Democrat party.
     
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    How's the weather on fantasy island these days?
     
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    The right wing either lives in a bubble or are pathological liars and deniers of facts. I say both.
     

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