Obama, Pelosi, and the others Made me Buy Guns

The assault rifle has had the same definition since World War II.

While the definition of "assault weapons" varies wildly. It goes from something modest like Denver Colorado (any rifle with a magazine that holds more than 20rds) to single shot rifles in California.

Kranes56 is pretending to know more about the subject than he actually does.

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The VPC website plainly states the confusion between modern sporters and automatic weapons only makes them easier to ban, and they take advantage of that.

 

The military does not field AR-15's. The Russian military does not field WASR-10's. They field automatic weapons, the M-16, the M4, and the AK-47. The weapons that Obama is referring to are not military grade weapons.

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Assault rifles are never strictly semi-automatic. If it were only semi-automatic, by definition it would not be an assault rifle.

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No it is not. You can go to a Class III dealer, and if you have the cash, legally acquire an automatic firearm.

Look forward to spending about $20,000 for an M-16.

 

Yep, they state that the next wave is 'assault pistols' but the VPC doesn't even use the term 'assault rifle' but 'assault weapon' which is that amorphous catchall for as many guns as can be labeled to become banned.

 

There is no country in the history of countries that is or ever was "similar". That's precisely why our founding fathers established this one. Why is it on me to teach you this stuff? From the get-go, this country was based in the belief that no free man can trust another to govern him. That's why it's of the people, by the people, and for the people.
Indeed, other modern countries have disarmed their Citizens, and made subjects of them, arriving inevitably at the nanny state. In the UK, it has become so bad that you are forbidden by law to defend yourself from a home invasion. That's part of why we are not like them, and thank God for that.
You claim that assault weapons can also be made semi-auto. Flat out liberal lie. There is not an assault rifle on this planet that was designed as semi-auto only. Some, if not most have the capacity for selective fire.
The AR-15 that you can buy at a gun store is not an "assault rifle". Not by any means.
Please educate yourself before you attempt to post a viable argument. Again, you are not dealing with imbeciles.

 

I was wanting his definition for the comedy.

 

Which is silly, these "pistols" are nearly as large as rifles.

 

God bless the regular joes of this country ! " SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" a right, not open for discussion .

 

Wrong, he supports Feinsteins ban which she trotted out immediately after Sandy Hook, and which bans all kinds of firearms and has nothing to do with military weapons.

In fact, claiming obama or the banners just want to ban "military grade" weapons is total BS and shows complete ignorance at best, and lying at worst.

And what is "military grade"? Let me guess, its anything thats scary black, that really makes something "military grade".

 

Come up with a response to this:

OK, how about this: LOL and LOL and LOL again, to think you actually believe that post was intelligent and deserves any other response besides LOL!

 

there should be no background checks, no permits required to conceal your weapon and ANYONE over the age of 18 should have the right to buy a gun, owning a gun is not a privilege... it's a right

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Yeah, but it is catchy. Think they will include all black semi-auto pistols like the Beretta?

 

Obama is a politician. Obama has an agenda. Obama is not completely stupid and even though he announced his intentions and thinks he knows the American people, he ran into reality and would have been chasing a losing proposition so announced he would do what he could with his assault weapon because even though he thinks he knows the American people, he keeps proving that he either doesn't or doesn't care.

 

A man with a gun is a citizen, a man without a gun is a subject. Our forefathers knew this to be true..... Why do so many of us question their wisdom? -D. Michael Wiechman, May 14, 1996




"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
-Thomas Jefferson, Proposed Virginia Constitution, 1776, Jefferson Papers 344



"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest." -- Mahatma Gandhi



"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them." -George Mason, during Virginia's ratification convention, 1788




"The usual road to slavery is that first they take away your guns, then they take away your property, then last of all they tell you to shut up and say you are enjoying it." -- James A. Donald



"25 States allow anyone to buy a gun, strap it on, and walk down the street with no permit of any kind: some say it's crazy. However, 4 out of 5 US murders are committed in the other half of the country: so who is crazy?" -- Andrew Ford

 

Don't we have to fill out permits to use public spaces for rallies? Don't we have to have to have licenses to drive cars? It may not say it but the freedom of movement does exist. How about comerece? You want to open up a business somewhere, you have to fill out paper work, you have to abide by laws. These are all rights, but there are restrictions on rights. We can't have complete freedom, otherwise we jepordize the liberty of others.

 

What good does it do a politican to keep lying? They'll simply be called out on it and eventually removed from office. There's simply no reason to.

So should I comment on the person that decided to post this:
"Come up with a response to this:"
because that is a comment other then LOL.

 

You do realize that person's actual position on a topic, is very often different then how a person will actually act? I might not like everything a bill says, but if it supports what I want, I'm going to support the bill.

If ignorance is the lack of knowledge, and a person looked up what the position is, then ignorance really can't be a good adjective now can it?

My guess is the legal definition by which they're operating by.

 

The best example is in the White House today. What did obama run on in 2008 - stopping the wars, reining in the Patriot Act and drone strikes, less surveillance, he would be transparent, he would be the post-partisan and post-racial President. He LIED.

What did obama say to get obamacare passed? You can keep your doctor, you can keep your insurance if you like it. Your premium will go down $2,500 putting more money in your pocket. Access will go up, costs will go down, efficiency will increase. All LIES to mislead people to try to build support for obamacare.

What did obama do to minimize the loss in 2010? He postponed the cuts to medicare advantage until after the election - a dishonest move to keep older voters from seeing the true impact of obamacare until after the election.

What did obama do to win in 2012? He used the IRS and other regulatory agencies to target his political opposition, then lied about it - dishonesty at its peak.

obama is nothing but lies, and he lies to advance his political agenda. His entire SUCCESSFUL political career is based on lies.

 

There always is.

You are aware that the "people" was not actually the masses of the people right? There was the "people", educated and capable of running a country. Then there was the "mob" who needed the "people" to direct them. That's one of the reasons why there were property requirements in the beginning, only those who had a stake in the state, should be allowed to vote. As for other countries that had what amounts to limits on an executive's power, the Netherlands was a republic, and Switzerland was a confederacy at that time.

You mean countries that are stable democracies and don't need armed revolts to protect their rights?

1. No, that's simply not true.
2. Even in the U.S. you're not supposed to do certain things when someone tries to do a home invasion.

I may not be the best when it comes to guns, but I don't have to be. I can simply argue government and society. That works a lot better for me in the end. So come on, let's see how this game goes.

 

You mean the person is a liar - they say one thing and do another. We actually agree then that gun banners are liars.

True, but that requires the person to actually learn what the position really is. And anyone that thinks Feinstein's gun ban legislation has anything to do with "military grade" weapons has not looked at Feinstein's legislation - in fact has not even read it.

That's telling, you "guess" how they are operating? You are commenting about a subject about which you know nothing and have to guess.

Read Feinsteins proposed gun ban. There is little rhyme or reason to it other than banning as many firearms as possible. It bans many weapons based on characteristics that are cosmetic and have absolutely nothing to do with the function or capability of the weapon.

 

Pick me apart all you want. On every point, you fill in the blanks where the informed were wondering how ignorant of the facts you are.
Refer to the thread about Washington State, where an overwhelming majority showed up at the State Capitol, including a Senator, and exclaimed "We will not comply". That's how this game goes. You wanna' play stupid games with our rights? You get a stupid civil war.

 

We all do that which we are capable of. A BB gun is the best you can do. I don't mind that a liberal will be vulnerable during the coming troubled times.

 

personal use vs public use, you should not have to have a permit for a gun, that makes it a privilege and not a right

driving a car is not a right, it's a privilege...

now if we were to remove the gun rights from the constitution, then you would be correct, we could do that.... require people to get a license to operate a gun, ect...

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Perhaps we should question more frequently governments can limit our rights. Why do we have to fill out paperwork to start a business?
Garner died as a result of unwarranted tax laws in a nanny-state. Why?

 

Anything at anytime is a good reason to purchase a new firearm or ammo.