Obama & Putin at UN - full transcript of both speeches

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  1. fluer

    fluer New Member

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    Our policy in Syria has nothing in common with negotiations it is ultimatum. And that is right. Re US stand on Syria: US is like a man who see the start of wild fire in the forest due to mistakes of local people. Nobody knows how far this fire may go but some local people trying to fight with it by cutting trees around the fire. US like green peace is trying to stop such fighters by watering petrol everywhere in the forest. Then magic, US aim is achieved - fighters have died in the fire storm, usual people whom do nothing also, the forest is gone...
     
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    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Big talk. So will Russian bring peace to the entire ME like they brought it to Afghanistan?
     
  3. fluer

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    And apogee of this absurdity... The main thought for US - go home, you have already done everything that you can in Iraq,Lybia, Egipt, Syria... full scale disaster is the result... please leave this poor ME people to their doctators. They are not good - but in many times more human than US help:)))
     
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    DonRumataEstorsky Banned

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    USSR did not exist 25 years. Wake up!
    BUT:
    [video=youtube;NsZg_maF0ow]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsZg_maF0ow[/video]=[video=youtube;mhROd7Jt3-w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhROd7Jt3-w[/video]

    US wants the war to have orders for the military industry and dominate on the planet. Russia wants peace for all on the planet. US must shut up then the war will end quickly.
     
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    sore - Assad army runs on streets and shoots on the right and for the left. All of us saw as was in Ukraine during revolution as among peace protesters appeared and the armed people (also snipers about which the Kiev junta already forgot, instead of any investigations) and as Washington lied for the western mass media about a peace protest. Also began and in Syria, only even more weapon was...
     
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    Gilos Well-Known Member

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    what do you think the US stand on Syria should be ?

    And thx for letting me stick around.....
     
  7. Iranian Monitor

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    Even before the so-called Arab Spring, as way back as 2007, the US had already started supporting terrorist groups affiliated to Al Queda on the Lebanon/Syria border as a lever and means to weaken Assad and Hezbollah. The Saudis were in the forefront on the actual support that was given, but this was done with active US acquiescence and coordination. Seymour Hersh’s famous article, called The Redirection, exposed this policy based on interviews with various then current and former officials in the Bush administration.
    At the time of the so-called Arab Spring, when Iran was gloating about the fact that various US supported regimes such were tumbling in the Middle East, Hillary Clinton and other American officials explicitly mentioned how the Arab Spring could be turned against Iran itself, in countries such as Syria. This was all before any of the large protests against Bashar Assad. Those protests, when they emerged, used actual opposition and grievances against his rule but were coordinated and managed from outside. The groups who were organizing and leading the demonstrations were basically stooges linked to various foreign intelligence agencies, with frantic assistance from US/Saudi backed groups in Lebanon as well as various Syrian opposition figures in contact with them. Of course, in the context of the time and the declared policies at issue, Assad tried to put down the demonstrations with an iron hand. But since the protests were organized and backed by foreign countries, what happened was that the protests then took on a different shape. Saudi and Qatari money allowed foreign backed agents to recruit former and current Syrian army officers to form the so-called Free Syrian army, while the Al Queda linked groups the US had supported based alongside the Lebanon/Syria border formed the nucleus of what became the radical Sunni extremist jihadist forces that emerged and which were being recruited from all over the world. All of this, of course, generously financed by the Saudis and Qataris, with the US and EU backing the process all the way and providing the diplomatic cover for these activities, while the Turks were acting as one important leg organizing the jihadists and using their common border with Syria to let them and the arms and material flow into that country. At that point, the whole western media was recruited to project an image that Assad’s fall was imminent, encouraging further defections (fueled by promises of money and more) within his regime’s ranks.
    It was under these circumstances, when Iran entered the fray and helped Assad in various ways to reverse the tide of battle. Until last year or thereabouts, when the ISIS blitzkrieg in Iraq (something I will discuss elsewhere but which the US was similarly responsible for) and the provision of even more advanced weapons to the rebels coupled with a drain on manpower and resources from within Syria and the groups being used to support Assad began to change the tide and battle once again against Assad. At this point, with Iran under severe sanctions and the Syrian civil war costing Iran substantial sums, and with certain political elements within Iran being beefed up to find ways to work with the US and the West on Syria, the picture began to look a bit murky in the wake of the nuclear deal negotiated between Iran and the West. But those elements within Iran who weren’t ready to abandon Assad and let the US and company achieve the mischievous objectives in the region, began to coordinate their efforts with the Russians and the Syrian and Iraqi governments to essentially open the way for Russia to come and fix the situation that was being created.
     

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