Obama = worst president in history?

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  1. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To the partisans, it's always the Dem's fault for everything. That is their spin.

    But the fact they cannot spin is that it wasnt' Carter or Obama or the Dems or Clinton that held power when the housing bubble blew up to crisis levels and then started imploding.

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    Richard Nixon wasn't the worst President, just the most crooked that happened to get caught. There's a lot I disagree with Nixon about and Nixon was a horrible person, but he was not a bad president by any stretch of the imagination.
     
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    Don't be ignorant. Boy george planned to attack iraq, to settle a personal score, long before 9/11!
     
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    It happened 4 short years ago and you've forgotten already?
    bush the failure owns it all, the GOP caused it all along with 75% of our debt.
    Man, you can't simply say it isn't so and expect thinking people to go along with you.
     
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    He and the GOP milked that tragedy for all it was worth, shameful if you ask me.
     
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    NAFTA is a republican bill, put the blame where it belongs.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    you lost your credibility putting carter in there.:D
     
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    thanks for only seeing what you WANT to see.Clinton signed it.your obviously in denial.
     
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    Clinton was the most evil president till Bush jr came along.He signed NAFTA and he is behind the deaths of close to a hundred or so including Vince Foster because of the MENA arkansas scandal he was involved in with his pal Bushwacker.too mnay people knew about his corruption and died mysterious deaths.
     
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    Obama hasnt done diddly squat to try and change things.thats how you net people always do,when your cornered,you try and shift the blame to someone else blaming congress and crap like that.yeah congress put a gun to clintons head and told him he would die if he did not sign NAFTA.your funny.:roll:
     
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    coming from someone who has been programmed to think that the democrats can do no wrong and since your posts are so biased towards the democrats which is obvious from your posts,its funny you think you can be taken seriosuly?hee hee.

    hate to break your heart but going back to JFK our last great president,each president since then with the exception of carter,they have been worse,more corrupt and more evil than the previous one.we have a ONE PARTY SYSTEM designed to look like two parties so the american sheople think they have a choice in who gets elected.meanwhile nothing ever changes and get worse each year after year and always will till we get a third party president in who will serve the people instead of wall street and the zionists.deal with it!!!!!

    oh and you should go to youtube and type in the obama deception and watch it.even blacks in chicage have admitted they screwed up in voting for him and got wise and turned to ron paul.the only candidate who belived in the constitution and thats why the establishemnt sabotgoed his campaine to make sure he did not get the republican nomation.as long as romney or obama got in they did not care cause both are funded by wall stree and the zionists and like clinton,bush,nixon,reagan and Lbj,do not believe in the constitution.
     
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    OP is absolutely delusional. Carter was not the worst president in history, Obama is not even close. This irrational hatred of Obama is completely ridiculous, and I'm sick of it. There is a lot of nastiness in American politics today, and most of it is coming from the right, albeit a very small proportion of it is also coming from the left. The behavior of conservatives in America becomes increasingly more disgusting with every passing day. When I came to the US I was a Republican, now I am forced to not state a party because I am ashamed to be associated with such close-minded anti-democratic practices. Grow up, you're not winning anyone over this hyperbolic, bigoted BS.
     
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    Actually Iraq wasn't entirely his fault. It was the work of an intelligence officer who made a false assumption based on intelligence he gathered and made this assumption part of his official report. What Bush did wrong was not admitting that the intelligence community had made a grave error, but I suspect at this time the war hawks would not let him do that even if he wanted to. As for the financial bit though, that is right on point.
     
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    excellent post on the part about Carter.They have a right to hate Obama though because like I said,he is the most evil and corrupt president ever.Like I just got done telling him,you should watch THE OBAMA DECPETION sometime.he is a clver bastard unlike Bush.

    Like I said as well,each president that gets in is always more evil and corrupt than the previous one since its a ONE PARTY SYSTEM designed to look like two parties so the ignorant american sheople think they have a choice in who gets elected.

    Till Bush got in,Clinton was the most corrupt president ever,i did not think anybody could be worse than Bush but I should have known better since again,going back the last 50 years since JFK,every president with the exception of carter,has been more evil and more corrupt than his predecesser.I did not think anybody could be worse than Bush but Obama has topped him.

    He has continued all of Bushs policys.He launched more drone attacks against innocent civilains in just his first two years in office murdering women and children than Bush did his entire 8 years in office.

    You can count on the next president who get in four years from now being worse than Obama.Its not that Obama is more evil than Bush,I think Bush is actually.
    Its just that the establishment upps their anty when a new president gets in and if they do not do what they tell them to do,they end up like kennedy who did not do what the establishment told him to do and paid the price for it.He wasnt a willing puppet for the establishment like every president since then has been.

    your so right though,they need to grow up and stop making up crap that carter was the worst president and blaming Clintons atrocities on congress trying to shift blame away from him because they cant handle the truth.
     
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    Repetitive and unresponsive..................typical
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It was quite responsive. Your post is baseless and meaningless............typical.
     
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    Inheriting a falling surplus and a recession and the "massive" deficit during that recession $400B for ONE year then falling down to a measly $161B. Then Pelosi and Reid along with Senator Barak Obama took over the budget and raised the deficit to $458 and the to $1,412B, 3 times the worst Bush deficit and have kept the deficits over $1,000B for 4 years and no end in sight, so spare me your outrage over deficits when you support the Democrats and Obama.
    Blaming Bush and the Republicans in denial of the truth and excuse making.
     
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    Who wrote it?
    Who promoted it?

    Who signed it is irrelevant, you're obviously in denial.
     
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    Rambling nonsense aside, your opinion, which is worth what you can get for it, is noted.
     
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    The worst man to ever serve as President was clearly Bill Clinton. The worst President in modern history is clearly Barack Obama. It is folly to try and compare presidencies of centuries ago to modern times.
     
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    Oh man, you can't fix crazy.
     
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    Don't know about them but I certainly have to correct your best attempts to blame the failures of the Democrats and Obama on everyone you can think of.
    Yes exactly what we need right now to get the economy going instead of the failed policies of Obama. 52 months of full employment, highest Bush budget deficit $400B, last Bush budget deficit $161B. How's that deficit looking these days? How's that unemployment number more than three years after the recession ended? And don't try your phony attempts to blame Bush for the 2008 and 2009 deficits. As you well know those were Pelosi and Reid budgets which Obama supported and voted for and signed 2009 into law. You call the deficits during the 2001 recession and recovery a "squandering" and those deficits were a one year peak of $400B. Your boy and his his parteners increased the $161B and falling deficit to $1,400, how come that is not a "squandering"? How come the 3 fallowing years of $1,100+B deficits not a "squandering"?
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes. A return to Bush policies is just what we need right now. I mean, who doesn't long for the good old days when Bush left office?

    U]January 2009[/U]

    Job loss: Worst in 34 years
    Employers slashed 598,000 more jobs in January [2009] as unemployment rate climbed to 7.6%.

    NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Employers slashed another 598,000 jobs off of U.S. payrolls in January, taking the unemployment rate up to 7.6%, according to the latest government reading on the nation's battered labor market.

    The latest job loss is the worst since December 1974, and brings job losses to 1.8 million in just the last three months, or half of the 3.6 million jobs that have been lost since the beginning of 2008.


    http://money.cnn.com/2009/02/06/news/economy/jobs_january/index.htm

    Market players were also disappointed by reports that U.S. home prices fell 8.7% year-over-year in November, U.S. housing starts fell 15.5% in December, and weekly initial jobless claims rose 62,000 to 589,000.
    http://www.businessweek.com/investor/content/jan2009/pi20090122_192905.htm

    On Wednesday, the 30-stock Dow Jones industrial average finished with a loss of 248.42 points, or 2.94%, to 8,200[/B].

    http://www.businessweek.com/investor/content/jan2009/pi20090114_103250.htm

    598,000 Jobs Shed In Brutal January

    Unemployment Hits 7.6% as Downturn Picks Up Steam

    The need for progress on those fronts seemed more important than ever yesterday, as the Labor Department announced that conditions worsened more than expected last month. The nation's employers shed 598,000 jobs, the most since 1974, driving the unemployment rate to 7.6 percent from 7.2 percent. If the jobless rate keeps rising at the pace it has for the past two months, it will hit double digits in summer and reach its highest rate since the Great Depression by the fall.


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/06/AR2009020601156.html

    GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT: FOURTH QUARTER 2008 (PRELIMINARY)
    [Real gross domestic product -- the output of goods and services produced by labor and property located in the United States -- decreased at an annual rate of 6.2 [later revised to 9.2] percent in the fourth quarter of 2008, (that is, from the third quarter to the fourth quarter), according to preliminary estimates released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis.


    http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/gdp/2009/pdf/gdp408p.pdf

    Continued Unemployment Claims at Record High
    In the week ending Jan. 24, the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 588,000, an increase of 3,000 from the previous week's revised figure of 585,000.

    http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2009/01/continued-unemployment-claims-at-record.html
     
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    On what basis? Came into office on the Dot.com bubble busting, a slowdown and recession and then9/11 and his policies kept the deficits to a peak of $400B and then full employment, soaring revenues, spending restraint and the deficits fell down to a measly $161B. So how did Obama and the Democrats do when they took over in 2008?
     
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    Who held power when Fannie and Freddie were backing mortgages with tax payer dollars which gave firms incentive to play with other people's money? Who held power when Clinton was pushing aggressive home ownership programs targeting minorities to increase their home ownership rates? Who held power when Clinton was enforcing the Community Reinvestment Act which pressured banks to lower credit standards and give mortgages to people who wouldn't normally be able to afford them, or else face penalties from the Government? Who held power when the misguided liberal notion that home ownership is a "right" caught on?. Who held power when home prices, which had remained flat for decades, suddenly started climbing to record levels during Clinton's 2nd term in office, right after these homeownership programs went into effect? Who held power when Clinton signed the repeal of Glass Stegall into law which set the stage for the deregulation that liberals cite as the cause of the mortgage bubble?

    The conditions that created it were set into motion way before Bush took office.
     
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