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Obamacare A Big Lie From The Start...

Discussion in 'Health Care' started by onalandline, Apr 10, 2012.

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  1. Mr_Truth

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    Mr_Truth, May 12, 2014
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  3. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Excellent post from Marianne on healthcare.gov -- hits the nail on the head.

    https://www.facebook.com/Healthcare.gov

    This country couldn't be more screwed and we have the Democrats to thank. One consolation... they're just as screwed as the rest of us. Wonder how eager they'll be for Republicans to run the ACA?

    Idiots.
     
    Smartmouthwoman, May 12, 2014
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  4. Mr_Truth

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    Forum Nazis hate ACA and repeatedly spew lies about non payment of insurance premiums but the facts tell a completely different story:



    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...lees-have-paid-premiums-insurers-say/8801241/




    ''etween 80% and 90% of new health exchange enrollees have paid their first month's premium, insurers told a House panel Wednesday.

    "We are seeing strong membership growth and large percentages of our newly enrolled are successfully paying their premiums by the due date," Dennis Matheis, president of WellPoint's central region and exchange strategy, said.

    Matheis said 70% of all new enrollees had paid their first premium, but that not all premiums were due by April 15, the deadline for which the committee had asked for numbers. About 90% of those whose first due date had passed had paid their premiums, he said.''



    therefore, instead of ACA being a lie, it is the right wing propaganda that has been nothing but lies
     
    Mr_Truth, May 13, 2014
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    LOL, first month premiums mean less than nothing when signing up was mandatory. It's future payments that matter. Esp when folks decide their mortgage is more important than a useless healthcare policy with a $6000 deductible.
     
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    Then where's the demographics for your 45,000 butchered citizens?
     
    stjames1_53, May 13, 2014
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    I already answered that by telling you to ask the researchers at Harvard - if you are not literate enough to understand their writings have someone read it to you.
     
    Mr_Truth, May 14, 2014
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    you stated your claim, now back it up with the demographics, that is IF they exist at all......
     
    stjames1_53, May 14, 2014
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  9. Mr_Truth

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    I did. Read the Harvard Report, that is unless you are too afraid of the TRUTH.





    Meanwhile here is more reason why ACA has 61% approval:






    Turns Out Obamacare Premiums Aren't More Expensive After All


    Business Insider By Lauren F Friedman


    May 12, 2014 11:39 AM
    When the cost of an employer-provided health insurance plan is compared to the cost of an Affordable Care Act plan bought on a state health insurance exchange, the ACA plan will be more affordable on average, a new analysis from PricewaterhouseCoopers' Health Research Institute finds.

    "In 2014, the premiums for health plans offered on new state exchanges under the Affordable Care Act (ACA) are comparable to — and in some cases lower than — those being offered by employers with similar levels of coverage," the analysts concluded. "The data suggest the new exchanges are competitive with the current insurance market."





    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/turns...3900650.html?soc_src=mediacontentsharebuttons




    Obamacare SUCCESS = A Big TRUTH From the Start ----- Thank you Mr Obama!
     
    Mr_Truth, May 15, 2014
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    it isn't. It has a disapproval rating of 41%. http://www.politico.com/story/2013/...act-obamacare-41-percent-approval-101151.html
    The 61% is from the illegal community who still receive all the free care they can eat up. There isn't enough fresh money going into the money pit to support it over the course of 2 years.
    I have found that the only ones who really approve of ACA are the freeloaders and illegals. Rmember, yer boy says y'all don't have to work, now. So how is it going to be paid for?
    So your numbers (which come form some obscure blog) are an outright lie.
     
    stjames1_53, May 15, 2014
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    Attacking the source because you can't contradict the facts?
     
    Logician0311, May 16, 2014
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    Again you can't address the point, so you attack the source... And yet you provide no sources of your own...
     
    Logician0311, May 16, 2014
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    In 1952, 32% of all revenue generated in the US came from large corporations.
    Today, less than 10% of federal revenue comes from corporate America.

    Remind me which political party keeps paving the way for corporations to be freeloaders...?
     
    Logician0311, May 16, 2014
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    the socialist criminal known as FDR paved the way for this fiasco
     
    stjames1_53, May 16, 2014
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    Right...

    I guess all the tax cuts that solely benefitted corporations and the extremely wealthy had nothing to do with it... :roll:
     
    Logician0311, May 16, 2014
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    :roflol: :roflol: :roflol:




    Do some homework and you will see that building up the infrastructure and using tax revenues for it was proposed by Republican Teddy Roosevelt. Do further research and you will see that FDR based his thoughts on the writings of John Quincy Adams who based his on those of President Washington and of Alexander Hamilton. The latter wrote their ideas long before Marx was born. I have previously posted links to those writings. And it was TR who initially proposed universal heath care.

    When will these anti-USA right wingers ever learn?
     
    Mr_Truth, May 16, 2014
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    what I've learned today is that a socialist will lie cheat steal and murder to have their way. They will hire their dirty work to be done and scream and rant like little babies when they lose.
    They are all liars and will stoop to any level to present a truth for a lie.'
    so sayeth your false god
     
    stjames1_53, May 16, 2014
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    18 million and counting - now add Indiana to that list.
     
    Mr_Truth, May 16, 2014
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    not me :roflol: for all the so-called truths out there, I really could be your next door neighbor, for all you really know
     
    stjames1_53, May 16, 2014
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    A conservative Bush economic adviser's claim reported by notorious liar RW propaganda "Brietbart," versus the bi-partisan Congressional Budget Office:

    5-14-14
    CBO’s Estimate of the Net Budgetary Impact of the Affordable Care Act’s Health Insurance Coverage Provisions

    ... Those amounts do not reflect the total budgetary impact of the ACA. That legislation includes many other provisions that, on net, will reduce budget deficits. Taking the coverage provisions and other provisions together, CBO and JCT have estimated that the ACA will reduce deficits over the next 10 years and in the subsequent decade. ...

    http://www.cbo.gov/publication/44176

    The lie here is the RW propaganda, once again. But don't let that interfere with your make believe world for Obama bashing.
     
    Iriemon, May 16, 2014
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    Right wingers will again cry over that TRUTH.
     
    Mr_Truth, May 16, 2014
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    What led you to this "insight" today?
    Who was murdered? Who stole, lied, or cheated? What "dirty work" are you referring to? Who has ranted more than you?

    What was your false god's reason for starting an unbudgeted war against the only Arabic country with a history of fighting against Islamic extremism again? Something to do with 911? Something to do with WMDs?
     
    Logician0311, May 16, 2014
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    dude, I have only one God, and He sure isn't now or ever was in the Whitehouse.............. and screw the Mideast...............
     
    stjames1_53, May 16, 2014
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    Obamacare = continued great SUCCESS


    http://www.businessinsider.com/cbo-obamacare-report-how-many-people-are-insured-2014-4



    ''More than 12 million people will gain health insurance under the Affordable Care Act this year, according to new projections released by the Congressional Budget Office Monday. And millions more stand to benefit from the law over the next decade ... the law's costs to the federal government are shrinking. According to the new projections, the federal government will spend more than $100 billion less on Obamacare's coverage provisions through 2024 than previously projected. That includes a downward estimate of about $5 billion this year. Overall, spending on the federal and state insurance exchanges are projected to cost 14% less than originally forecast.''



    more money and lives saved every day thanks to ACA



    THANK YOU MR OBAMA! :flagus:
     
    Mr_Truth, May 18, 2014
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    another red state benefits from ''Obamacare":


    http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/05/16/3438782/hospitals-arkansas/



    Preliminary survey results from Arkansas show a significant drop in the number of uninsured since the implementation of the state’s so-called private option, a compromise hammered out between Gov. Mike Beebe (D), Republican state lawmakers, and the Obama administration to provide health care coverage to low-income residents.
    Data released on Thursday from 42 hospitals show that emergency room visits dropped by 2 percent, “while the number of uninsured patients in those emergency rooms dropped by 24 percent,” the Associated Press notes.




    When asked to comment on this success a Republican pol declined to answer.

    Naturally.



    ACA = SAVING MONEY & LIVES EVERY DAY BECAUSE IT IS A BIG TRUTH FROM THE BEGINNING.
     
    Mr_Truth, May 19, 2014
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