Obamacare failure threatens liberalism!

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    suggest you check out the Generic Poll over on RCP, the Republicans just surpassed the Democrats.

    The denials by the usual gang are hysterical as we watch the Democrats start jumping ship.

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    They're losing the policies they liked and that were affordable and yes some are losing their insurance as they cannot afford the Obamacare premiums and deductibles.
     
  2. Bluesguy

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    Yep the WH just announced that the website will not be fixed by Dec. 1 and millions are already finding out they have lost their insurance and can't afford Obamacare. Now the Democrats go home for the holidays to face the voters.

    Democrats Are Jumping Ship

    Posted 04/20/2012 06:54 PM ET
    Politics: Perhaps Democrats know something the rest of us don't about Barack Obama's political fortunes. What else explains the increasing numbers who are openly defying the president on two key election issues?
    http://news.investors.com/ibd-edito...are-democrats-fleeing-sinking-obama-ship-.htm

    It's not doing well anywhere, even in the states where people can manage to sign up sticker shock is hitting.
     
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    The Obamacare scare mongers are making it seem as if people are being denied insurance. I think they're forgetting the overall goal of Obamacare and the healthcare movement. Within a year, more people will have health insurance in the USA than ever before, and the USA will be keeping up with other prosperous, healthy OECD countries.

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    The phone number is on the homepage. It's quick and easy. The website is just an alternative.
     
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    Its only a website problem folks, no worries for Democrats..Kick them out of power over us in the coming elections.
    Links in article at site.

    SNIP:
    Chicago Tribune: Man, the number of ObamaCare losers really seems to be piling up, doesn’t it?


    posted at 2:51 pm on November 25, 2013 by Erika Johnsen


    Much love has evidently been lost between the Obama administration and the editors of President Obama’s hometown paper, particularly since the Chicago Tribune came out swinging against the administration’s incompetence in rolling out ObamaCare and its inherent big-government intrusion not too long ago. They’ve been getting a lot more critical of the president’s crowning legislative achievement, and their latest editorial takes issue with the “small” qualifier getting tacked on to so many of the very forced explanations coming from ObamaCare’s advocates and apologists.

    ‘Yes,’ many of these supporters are now begrudgingly admitting, ‘ObamaCare’s very nature does mean that there will be an ever-so-small number of losers who may have to pay just a tiny bit more for a new plan, but it’s OK because the vast, vast majority of people are going to absolutely love their new-and-improved, more comprehensive plans!’ …Except that, as the Chicago Trib points out, that losers-list is stubbornly growing longer, with no end in sight:

    ALL of it here
    http://hotair.com/archives/2013/11/...osers-really-seems-to-be-piling-up-doesnt-it/
     
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    First of all, stop calling Leftists "liberals", doombug.

    Secondly, while some Democrats are acknowledging the abject failures they enacted into law, the progs at New Republic aren't admitting it - they're still keeping the neo-socialist faith. They can't and won't admit that it's their ideology and the policies that are a product of their ideology are what has failed. They're still bleating in their cocoon of denial that the problems are "technical difficulties", the failure "to translate complex mechanisms of policy into plain English" and "initial impressions of government ineptitude".

    LOLZ. :lol:

    While ObamaCare does pose a threat to neo-socialism/"progressivism" in America, the biggest threat to neo-socialism/"progressivism" is the clueless state of denial that its votaries dwell within. You can't fix stupid.
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    Millions have had their policies cancelled.
     
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    Hey, each party needs to take responsibility for their own radical faction. The tea party is linked to conservatism so these radical liberals are a thorn in the left's side. Until each side can control the radicals we will be stuck with these extreme differences in views and remain divided.
     
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    Failure? Yes, failure.
     

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    How do you propose that the Left and the Democratic party control the radicals when the radicals are the ones in control?
     
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    Start speaking out and do like us Independents: Vote the other side.
     
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    Yes, as Obama said, this is more than just a website. He hit the nail on the head there. First time I can remember since he got elected that he didn't lie. Must have had a week moment.
     
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    sure like 30,000, but 5,000,000+ have already been dumped....

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    Jesus christ man its an article from "The New Republic" probably the oldest progressive publication in the world.
     
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    The roll out is the least of the problems with the ACA. Will people have forgotten that they lost their plans they were promised they could keep. Will people forget about having to pay more for their coverage when they were promised they would be paying less? Will people forget about not being able to see the doctors they want to see when they were promised this would not happen?

    Also, the employer mandate will be added to the mix a year from now, and that may very well be the most disastrous aspect of this whole mess.

    Will everyone somehow forget all that too?
     
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    No is saying it isn't working right, but there are a lot more components to that then just the website. Those things people want and are in effect. You can't deny that at all. Plus the website is getting fixed.
     
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    Tens of millions of people losing the health plans they know and like for more expensive ones with high deductibles and outrageous yearly out of pocket costs, people WILL spank the Democrats badly in the next two elections.
     
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    HAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHA

    Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Weston, tweeted a simple breakdown.

    who believes that freakn clown... HAHAHAHAHHAHA

    [video=youtube;QxOjGCOyB2Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxOjGCOyB2Q[/video]
     
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    Hey, watch what you say about DWS... after Hillary & Warren, shes their next great female hope!
     

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    Those things people want and are in effect. = FREE STUFF

    Every tax sucking provision is well subscribed. Every risk pool collapsing negative demographic is playing out in spades.

    Own fail, Baby!
     
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    That was the plan from day one.
     
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    Yes, how dare politicans do what their constituents want. It's a real shame that's what they do.

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    Okay she lied. I don't care.
     
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    It will not be fixed and the phone call just put you in touch with someone else who has to use the website, get up to speed.
     
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    Which people? It's worse that imagined when you add in the security problems which have not been resolved and might never be resolved because of the fundimental flaws. Then add in the increased premimums and deductibles.

    30 million at best guess might get insurance they did not have. 60 million plus will lose theirs and have their premiums skyrocket even if they can afford it. Which way is the balance going to shift?
     
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    Excusing FAIL! since 2009.
     

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