Obamacare failure threatens liberalism!

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  1. Radio Refugee

    Radio Refugee New Member

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    I suppose it's too much to hope that you might eventually recognize this as putting a gun TO MY HEAD, emptying MY POCKETS and taking it for yourself.

    Leftist greed is unbounded.
     
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    I encourage anyone to call the phone number below to sign up for affordable healthcare and see what subsidies they qualify for:

    Subsidies could be significant so I think anyone making under $45,000 should really check the website out. Checking subsidies and packages is bug-free. Just drill down to your state and quality of plan you want and voila.
     
  3. Kranes56

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    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...axelrod-says-vast-majority-americans-will-ke/

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...annity-says-average-man-will-see-his-premium/

    My guess towards the truth.

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    Yeah keep thinking that.
     
  4. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You do realize that 61% of Americans oppose FullRetardCare?
     
  5. Kranes56

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    Wow, why don't people like supporting the mentally ill? To that, Mr.Kimmel.

    [video=youtube;sx2scvIFGjE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx2scvIFGjE[/video]
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    Too many experts saying it is too fundamentally flawed to be fixed and the security problems will require a total rewrite. And they haven't even built half of it, the backoffice modules.
    $600 million plus and this is what we have. Who has been fired?

    Back to the point, this is ample proof of the failure of liberalism and the leftist who want to shove it down our throats. Government is the last entity we want controlling these matters.
     
  7. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    People who want to mooch off their fellow Americans are pathetic. The people who encourage it are even worse.

    Behold The Fall, kids... :no:
     
  8. Kranes56

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    Let's hear it. Where's your source?

    Don't companies have similar problems? The website was a result of constantly changing needs, thus when the final product came out, it didn't work. This stuff happens all the time in the real world.
     
  9. Bluesguy

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    If there is a point in the links you posted the quote them.

    "Axelrod said the vast majority of people are keeping their health care plans.

    That’s certainly what the 2010 health care law intended."

    No it is not, they intended for those policies to be dropped and more expensive plans put in place. And intentions are not reality. And the reason the company mandate date was extended was because of the threats of cancellations which will occur next year now.

    The government estimates that upwards of 60% of group plans will be cancelled and new policies put in place or people dumped.
     
  10. Kranes56

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    "Experts told us there is no precise data to determine how many people will be forced to change health care plans, but they generally agreed the number will be small this year. The broad consensus is that, for the time being, most people will see changes in their coverage and what they pay for that coverage consistent with changes they have seen with their insurance over the past decade."

    Well, if you read that part you quoted all the way down, you would have seen something else. Or noticed the mostly true ruling.

    Source.
     
  11. Bluesguy

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    Congressional testimony did you miss it?

    No.

    Bad management proving my point.

    Not like this and not at this cost. Even the MSM media is pointing out the total incompetence. Had this indeed happened in a private company heads would have rolled long ago, Obama would have known exactly how bad it was going to be and with his inaction the board of directors would have fired him.
     
  12. Talon

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    LOOK!! A squirrel playing a banjo!

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    I imagine it must be frustrating for FullRetardCare Troofers to find that a solid majority of Americans aren't buying the lies and excuses they're making to cover the abject failure of their precious redistribution scheme. Evidently, stoopid Americans are smart enough to figure out that handing over control of their health care to a bunch of bumbling neo-socialists who can't even get a website up and running after three years is a colossal mistake.
     
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    I'm not going to play this game, I have to get the house ready for Thanksgiving. Either you give me the source (It's going to be on CSPAN) or you're lying. If you don't give it to me by the next post, you're lying.

    You're telling me managment doesn't change the idea for a project based upon what the situation has evolved? I'm pretty sure they do.

    And bad managment is part of the real world as well, corporations fail.

    Sure why not, it's fun deal with speculation.

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    Aw, that's cute.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/09/30/new-poll-only-one-third-of-americans-support-repealing-defunding-or-delaying-obamacare/

    http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2013/oct/27/gary-crooks-voters-support-aca-denounce-obamacare/
     
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    So you want to go on record here that you are not aware of the congressional testimony last week that healthcare.gov was only 60% built and that the backoffice system had not even been built? Key testimony last week that was widely covered and discussed. Go on record that you are ignorant of that and I will prove it to you else I am not going to play your game of pretending obtuseness.

    No I'm telling you that private companies do not manage projects with such incompetence and mismanagement.

    Not like this, head roll before corporations fail because they can't get a website going. The difference here is companies don't force people to buy their products under threat of law, and if they do screw up they do go away and the ones that don't survive and provide those services. That doesn't happen when government runs it.
     
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    Did you see that blur rushing past? That was Chris Matthews running off to the White House.
     
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    BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

    And the Post of the Day goes to....STUART WOLFE!!

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  19. Wake_Up

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    Having people sign up is all the criteria needed to call it a success? PUHLEAZE...

    Do you not understand the redistribution issue? Do you not understand what it means to take form those who have to give to those have none or less? Do you ave any idea what this mentality is doing/going to do in the big picture?

    One day, assuming you are a producer, you will reach the point where you've had enough of them taking what you have to hand out to those who refuse to do anything.

    Then what?

    Do you not understand the issues when the government starts taking over free business?

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    The fact you leftist idiots think it's all about the website only demonstrates your shallow ignorance.
     
  20. Wake_Up

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    Lies...as usual.

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    They don't care about those people, they have jobs and make lotsof money, they can afford it...they only care about getting their hands on that money to give to someone else.

    Redistribution. Government take care of me, I don't care who's money you have to rob to give to me, just gimme, gimme, gimme.

    You know, the typical leftard mentality.
     
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    Repubs are blowing their load too early. Dems have a year to recover from this and there will be no doubt the Republicans do something to give up this Christmas gift Obama has given them. They'll start talking about women not being able to get pregnant when raped or something completely stupid that makes people question their decision making abilities.
     
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    You are quite a piece of obstinate work. No not supplying the source does not mean he is lying. You just want to see how you can say so and avoid forum rules.
     
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    Personal insult noted. Actually, it's part of the forum rules that the person making a claim has to cite a source if asked. It doesn't mean he's lying if he can't provide a source but it's his opinion. But since he's done this before to me, I'm going to assume he's lying.

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    Let's wish him good luck then.
     
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    1.No, having people sign up for it is not the only criteria. It's a big one, but not the only one.
    2.Yes, it's tearing the nation apart over what really amounts to how far right will we go.
    3. Yeah I'll let you know when that day comes.
    4.No one is taking over business. If the government were, then why are there auto insurance companies? A lot of states require drivers to have auto insurance.

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    So you have a problem with my source but refuse to give me a link to yours? Irony noted. Now then if you want to cite experts go ahead, otherwise the experts I cited stand.
     

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