OK, some of you have accused Gen. Milley of 'treason'.

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    If you are going to toss up a charge like 'treason', attribute it to a man who is a combat veteran of 42 years, the least you can do is listen to his account of the matter.

     
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    It's not treason, but he broke the chain of command by communicating operational matters to the Chinese. The civilian control of the military is essential, if he thinks what he did was honourable he should fall on his sword like a man.
     
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    Why the **** would he fall on his sword for doing something he thinks is honorable?
     
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    He openly admitted treason… he should be tried in a court martial …. And his comment that he was “instructed” to do it… I want to know who “instructed” him to do it… his boss Miller had no knowledge or his bosses boss Trump had no knowledge.
     
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    Immediately after this repeated claim, former Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe directly refuted Milley on Fox News with Martha MacCallum. The intelligence products used by the Pentagon come from the DNI office, and John Ratcliffe noted there was no intelligence that China held any such concerns. As a result, any justification claim that Milley makes about his motives for the call surrounding “deescalation” are nonsense.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.co...ce-that-china-was-worried-about-a-u-s-attack/
     
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    Here is the thing that bothers me about this entire chain of events. I do not believe it's been asked or addressed by these 'hearings'. Milley's actions bother the heck out of me BUT. I am trying to understand why the Chinese WERE CONVINCED that Trump would attack them? Has this been fully explained or even seriously addressed? Because like everything else, to fully understand Milley's actions, right or wrong, we need to know why the Chinese required this placation to begin with. Why did they believe that Trump would attack them?
     
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    see post #5
     
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    Problem with #5 is Ratcliff has zero credibility.
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    But he has more “credibility” than you do.
     
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    Hahaha, real debate prowess exhibited. Totally understandable.
     
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    "Combat veteran of 42 years...". My, what a busy boy, was he a globetrottin' mercenary? A LIAR IS A LAIR IS A LIAR...and they and their adherents ALWAYS tout their accomplishments as proof positive of their veracity....Hitler REALLY DID serve honorably in the German Army, well BIG WHOOP! The WWII generation nailed THIS one perfectly, "Why, all THAT and a nickel will get you a cup of coffee!".
     
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    Milley was hired to do one thing.
    Advise the president.
    Milley assumed his job was to advise the Chinese.

    Other Generals can handle that of Trump orders them to.
     
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    I listened to all of it on TV. The reality is that what Milley did was wrong. He escapes consequence because he was instructed to do it by the white house. It simply is not OK for a general to promise a opponent general that he would give him a heads up in the event of a planned attack. It is not OK for the white house to do it either. If the government thinks this is OK then the government is beyond stupid. And I should mention that by giving the Chinese general a heads up on the fact that there was no imminent plan to attack he creates an expectation that could backfire in the future. I'm not blaming Milley for anything other than failing to refuse to make the call. Even millions of people with no military experience can see the idiocy of this kind of communication. If you don't blame Milley then you have to blame the whole government. Sorry, what he did was doubly wrong regardless of who caused it to happen.
     
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    Look at the horrible mess General Milley caused when instead of advising Trump, his boss, he advised the Chinese whom are not his boss.
     
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    Sorry, can't follow this rambling.
     
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    That's NOT what he did. But, to the point of my post and the post I replied to; if we have men killing themselves for doing what they believe is "honorable" it won't take long till we run out of honorable men. :roll:
     
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    Gen. Milley has no business being Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and likely deserves a court martial, but treason is over the top.
     
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    Not Treason He is coward they all are, as an Army Vet I am ashamed
     
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    The accusations of treason revolve around this reported statement by Milley:

    “General Li, you and I have known each other for now five years. If we’re going to attack, I’m going to call you ahead of time. It’s not going to be a surprise.”


    That was not addressed by Milley in that clip you provided, and I've not heard him deny that he said that. So, given that this statement has not been refuted, I think it's perfectly find to think Milley guilty of treason because that's what that statement is.
     
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  20. Patricio Da Silva

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    Really, a combat veteran of 42 years is a coward?

    Did you listen to the video?

    I think not.
     
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    that line is taken out of context, the full context of which he spoke in the video.
     
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    Actually he did not do that, that was fake news... he did follow the chain of command
     
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    These guys look and act more like ridiculously cartoonish Soviet generals every day. What a pompous pretentious a**!
     
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    Well you would be wrong
     
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    No, I watched the video, he did not address this. If you have any "context" which makes this statement, “General Li, you and I have known each other for now five years. If we’re going to attack, I’m going to call you ahead of time. It’s not going to be a surprise,” NOT treason, please provide it because Milley didn't in your video.
     
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