O'Keefe video shows CNN's Van Jones calling Russia story a ‘nothingburger’

I have no idea what you were "real clear" about. I said I supported Trump's pick for SCOTUS. Is that confusing?

 

We need the guys with the big nets and the padded van...

 

What a stupid post.

 

You make it sound like this is something new.

 

There's no doubt Trump has shady business practices. Deny it if you wish, but he's lost court cases over it.
I assume he needs to be defended from the truth. Carry on.

 

No its not confusing for anybody anymore. I just cleared that circular logic you try and use. You supported Trump and that issue. That Democrat you say he is. So you supported Trump despite all of your complaints about him.

 

Have they come up with anything on the Emoluments clause you are hoping on?

Oh I am sure you are into all that assuming. Hence something will eventually be found, huh?

 

LOL, I'm not hoping for anything. I'm paying attention to what is going on. There is no doubt Trump isn't following his lawyer's plan to comply with the Emoluments Clause, so unless someone wants to hold his feet to the fire, he's probably going to get away with it. The law and order party sure has changed in what they accept as appropriate, all of a sudden.

 

That's not how you have come off....cmon now. Tell the truth. You're hoping that they can find something and will accept anything. Anything will do......as long as they find something. Cant get Trump for Collusion. Constitutional attorneys say there isn't any Obstruction. So now you go with he doesn't run his businesses cleanly.

Then there is always the fall back of someone on his Team. Some way somehow there has to be a way to hook him on something, Right?

 

As opposed to your substantive rebuttal.

 

I'll tell you what I think:
Trump embarrasses my country almost daily and I would be happy if he had never been elected. If he did something illegal and Congress had the political guts to impeach him, I would cry zero tears. At the same time, I remember what impeachment does to the rest of the country, and it isn't good. So, we're in a lose/lose situation. Either we have an embarrassment in the White House, or we have civil unrest and a political crisis gripping and further dividing the nation. Neither is good for the country. Trump's impulsiveness, inattentiveness, and thin skin concerns me, because he has the football. Trump seems to have no loyalty to anyone but himself, despite being the leader of 300+Million people.

You revel in and defend his antics. I am repulsed by them.

I'm willing to let Mueller do his job and will accept his findings. In the meantime, I am paying attention to what is being said. Past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior. I will not be surprised it Mueller finds crimes. I will be surprised if Congress does anything about it.

Now you know what I think.

 

Mueller is a notorious tool of the political class.

“Still, the problems with Justice persisted. And the timing of some of Mr. Mueller's moves raised eyebrows. In September 1991, Justice indicted six BCCI figures and a reputed Colombian drug lord on racketeering charges. The indictment was unveiled just minutes after then-Congressman Charles Schumer issued a report sharply critical of Justice Department handling of the case. ... Mr. Mueller also engaged in a running series of battles with the Manhattan District Attorney, Robert Morgenthau. According to news reports over the years, Justice prosecutors were instructed not to cooperate with Mr. Morgenthau's office, documents were withheld, and attempts were made to block other federal agencies from cooperating.

The December 1991 settlement of criminal charges against BCCI, which Terwilliger described as "a fair arrangement," uncovered "only $1.5 billion in the coffers of a bank that once held $22 billion in deposits." This missing money has never been traced.” FBI DIRECTOR MUELLER WAS AT CENTER OF ALLEGED BCCI COVERUP IN 1991, Published: May 26, 2009.
http://www.blacklistednews.com/FBI_...ed_BCCI_coverup_in_1991/4304/0/20/20/Y/M.html

How long before we have a special prosecutor investigating the special prosecutor and his ilk?

 

I don't know how long Mueller will last. However, I don't see any purpose in attempting to discredit Mueller, at this time. If he's discredited and then finds no wrong doing, his reputation was smeared for nothing other than partisan politics and will reflect badly on Trump. So, the only reason I see for pre-emptive character assassination is to attempt to offset what crimes they suspect he will eventually find.

 

More idiotic nonsense!

I am not going to debate the merits of CNN. Television is not my primary news source, nor has it ever been

But getting folks like you to go on and on about a week old retracted story and some faked video by a right wing fraudster., is exactly what Trump wants.

He doesn't want you to look at what he does, or what he doesn't' get done. He doesn't want you thinking about how little he has accomplished, how flagrantly corrupt he is, or why he acts like he has something to hide.

He wants you to bray the lines he feeds you. This is an age old propoganda tool. Goebels used it. Demonizing the press is a favorite tool of facists everywhere.

Convince your followers that your critics are not legitimate and that you are the only true source of facts.

That's what Trump is selling you.

 

Okeefe was around LONG before Trump ever considered the White House. He plays by the Democrat's own rules. He's ruthless, sometimes bending the rules. But he's not putting words into peoples mouths, what you see is what was said. CNN has been outed for the shills that they are. And you, like other Democrats, are deeply butthurt. Your party was exposed before the election, and continues to be so. Don't preach to me about corruption.............you Skankipotimus supporter.

 

I revel in him giving the 4th Estate all that they deserve. I would treat them a whole lot worse than what Trump does. Which they deserve worse. Then the Democrats. As the Demos can't be allowed to get away with this BS about delegitimizing a Presidency. Resistance/Rebellion/Obstruction of everything. If they are allowed to.....then they will do it again with another Repub they don't like. Or some Independent.

You seem to defend the leftness and the way they act. Even though what they are doing isn't good for the country. You definitely aren't making any noise about their ways. Yet think they aren't embarrassing the country on a daily basis? If they didn't act like they do.....then Trump would have less time to mess with their heads.

 

I speak my mind and state my opinion. If that appears to defend people on the left, try looking at the substance of what I am defending instead of trying to pigeon hole my partisanship. I seriously do not care about any political ideology but my own, and it is a mixed bag.

Perhaps you don't see me defending the other side, due to your own bias. Example- above you stated:

"Demos can't be allowed to get away with this BS about delegitimizing a Presidency. Resistance/Rebellion/Obstruction of everything. If they are allowed to.....then they will do it again with another Repub they don't like."

I saw exactly the same thing when Obama was President coming from the Republicans. Mitch McConnell and his posse absolutely said their main job was making Obama a one term President and discredited Obama every chance they got. He attempted to delegitimize Obama. So did the birthers. Then he denied the President's Constitutional responsibility to replace a Supreme Court justice. How do you not see that as obstruction? I saw FOX, Breitbart, and Infowars mocking, ridiculing, and calling for Obama to be impeached over all kinds of things, and then shifting the vitriol to Hillary when she announced her candidacy. Since you didn't see it that way, it may seem like the Democrats are doing something unprecedented. I see it as fighting fire with fire. I'm fairly sure Democrats didn't like what was done to Obama by Republicans any better than Republicans like what has been done to Trump.

So you see me as being a leftist because I think Trump is probably the biggest mistake America has ever made? Feel free to check my history, but I supported Kasich in the primary, and mentioned it several times. I was told he was a RINO and other things that were even less pleasant. Much of the same stuff thrown at Obama was also thrown at anyone opposing Trump, in other words, anyone they didn't like… just as you see the Democrats doing today. Turn about is fair play, so they say. It doesn't make for a pleasant populace, but it is what it is, and it comes from both sides, even when both sides don't admit that it does.

 

Then why are you posting in a thread where that is the intent of the OP?

Except that for all intents and purposes, that's what CNN is doing to itself. Like Captain Ahab trying to take down Moby Dick, CNN is taking it's obsession with the annihilation of Trump to levels of self-destruction.

 

Yet you can't show the Republicans obstructing BO peep from getting his cabinet members and getting his Administration up and running. Can you? BO peep was allowed to pick his cabinet members and to start governing. Trump hasn't been afforded that opportunity.

Nor can you bring that the Repubs blocking his SCOTUS pick is the same thing. 7 years later.

 

You're not going to put me in the position of defending Obama. If I do that, it's just more reason to dismiss what I said as being "leftist." You choose not to see that both sides do the same thing to each other, and instead excuse your side by pointing at the other side.

I heard Sarah Huckabee Sanders say today that 100 nominees were awaiting clearing background checks. That said, I am not arguing that some of the nominees have been slow walked. Had they been nominated in January, they would have already cleared the background check. Trump didn't nominate people to positions in a timely way and it has slowed all kinds of things, including the Russian investigation.

I do have an issue with you saying Trump hasn't ben afforded the opportunity to govern. Today he should have been discussing health care, North Korea, or any number of things, you know, governing. Instead, he distracted himself and everyone else with tweets about Mika and Joe. If he wants to govern, then he needs to govern- not tweet, golf, or have a rally.

 

There is nothing to defend BO peep over. He picked his cabinet and began governing. The Repubs didn't block all of his picks like Schumer and the Demos are doing with Trump. You cant get around that fact. That's the truth of the matter. There was no slow walking or obstructing his picks.

Moreover the Peep had Repubs in his administration.

Most of those Huckabee Sanders is talking about are Judges. Trumps direct cabinet picks have all been held up. Other than Mattis Tillerson, McMasters, and Kelly. Although Tillerson was slow walked thru.

Trump is meeting with the S Korean Leader tonight. So he wouldn't say anything until after those talks. Healthcare he has already talked with GOP Senators. The rest falls on them. He also has new requirements over Visas for his travel ban.

Just because the MS Media isn't covering those issues. Doesn't mean he hasn't made moves governing. Despite his tweets. That get the PC crowd all upset.

The leftness doesn't want Trump to tweet.....then don't talk **** about him. Stick to the facts and save the commentary.

The left needs to learn.....you get what you give. Until then.....they need to save the preaching.

 

Lame

 

Exactly, while Obama was surrounding himself with professed communists, like Jones and Jarret...

 

It seems to me, from your earlier post complaining that the Democrats are not giving Trump a chance to govern, that the Democrats have learned to give what they got. They are doing to Trump what was done to Obama. I'm not sure you're going to admit it, but that is what is happening.

 

So if I read this right, you don't deny that CNN has stepped over itself with the fake news, staff firings and insider confessions that the Russia story is BS. You just don't like having it rubbed in you face?

Too bad. If you can't take it, don't dish it out.