Omar: 'I unequivocally apologize' after backlash over new Israel tweets

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  1. Pisa

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    Please don't tell me what I think.

    The Neturei Karta issue is too complex and too off topic here, but basically yes, at least some of them are antisemitic, they hate their own people. This is not so hard to understand. Adherents of extreme, totalitarian ideologies usually hate (and persecute, if they can) all those who don't agree with them, including their own people.

    Whenever the Zionist question is debated, someone on either the left or the far right is bound to bring up, sooner or later, the anti-Zionist Neturei Karta, in order to "prove" that "true Jews" are anti-Zionists. It's a variant of Godwin's law, really.
     
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    Anti-semitism is an attitude. Disparaging jews is not necessary. Her anti-semitism is obvious to me. Feel free to think otherwise. Sorry, I don't watch internet videos because I have metered internet service.

    Since the zionists have achieved their goal, it is hard for me it imagine why anybody fears them. I would chalk it up to anti-semitism.
     
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    No, I'm not religious. I don't see islam and christianity in the same way like you do. Christianity has a checkered past but today supports values consistent with peace. I can say the same thing about every other major religion except for islam which set out from the beginning to convert non believers at the point of a sword and continue to do this to some extent today. Christianity preaches religious tolerance for the most part and islam does not.

    That is silly. You want to compare current behavior to past behavior and accuse me of ignoring that. I don't make any exceptions either. I just don't see terrorism in the name of any major religion other than islam TODAY.
     
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    "Without links"??????? What the hell do you mean? There were FOUR LINKS in that post!
     
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    So now we have a nation whose policies cannot be criticized because of identity politics ("THEY'RE JEWS!!!") and we have a section of our own population whose politics and policies can't be criticized for the very same reason.

    Do you know how insane that is?
     
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    It's not so much about fear as it is about what they're doing to the Palestinians and the threat of a major war due to their policies and responses.

    She took a position against policies and an organization dedicated to defending and supporting those policies. Religion has nothing to do with it. The right has long opposed assistance and defense of Tibet against China and now blatantly opposes Islam but that's different I suppose.
     
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    So you aren't aware of the policies of Zionist Israel toward Palestinians. I expect you also only know of and believe the Zionist defenses of how poor, powerful Israel has been viciously attacked by the weak, disarmed, disorganized Palestinians. Being partially informed and incorrectly "informed" by bias and propaganda from one side is a poor foundation for drawing intelligent conclusions.
     
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    I did not tell you what you think, you did, I thanked you for confirming it. And it is only what you think not a fact.
    It is amazing how people accuse others of what they themselves are doing! Because they do not agree with Zionism they hate their own people you think. You are actually doing exactly what you accuse them of, those who have worked to change the definition of Antisemitism have actually made it against the law to think differently to them.

    No, I have not suggested that they are true Jews only that they have a different opinion to Zionist views and that makes them antisemetic. You are the one who has brought up the subject of true Jews, then you suggest I have broken a new definition of Godwins law! You created a Strawman, then accused me of using it, hilarious!
     
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    Ah yes, blaming the Jewish people. Hitler would be proud.
     
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    No blaming the Zionist people that is not the Jewish People despite what Zionists will tell you! Hitler would not be proud he made deals with the Zionists in Germany!
     
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    I'm anti Palestinian so I don't see things the way you do.
     
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    Interesting you are proud of your anti Palestinianism but object to antisemitism. So it is not prejudice you are against just prejudice against those you support!
     
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    Yes, apples and oranges. Tibet is part of China and has been for a long time. There is no palestine. The lands people argue about are part of Israel. Palestinians want to replace Israel. Tibet wants freedom from China.
     
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    No their goal is the establishment of a Greater Israel, they still have a million or so Palestinians to kill or get rid of in some way.
     
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    The west bank Gaza and east jerusalem are not part of Israel, they are occupied territories according to international law. Even Israel accepts that in the case of the West Bank.
     
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    Occupied because they won the land in a war. I doubt Israel doesn't consider them a part of Israel. There is no Palestine.
     
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    You give the appearance of being one of their agents.
     
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    delete duplicate
     
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    If Israel considered they were part of Israel they would not of been under military law for 70 years!
     
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    The Israelis have a stranglehold on the dummies in Washington. At this very minute they are urging the fools to attack Iran for them. And AIPAC does bribe the greedy dummies = https://www.marketwatch.com/story/h...ainst-other-washington-influencers-2019-02-11
     
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    Israel is not THE JEWS AS A COLLECTIVE!
     
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    Screw the Damn Palestinians and their Bomb and Knife attacks on the Israeli people. Some Muslim throws a Firecracker at me, I'll come back at ya with a Stick of Dynamite or if one tries to stab me with a Knife, He'll get ventilated with an Assault rifle. Muslims danced in the streets when Americans had to make a decision to either burn to death or jump out of the World Trade Center on 9/11, We allow them to immigrate into the United States and they want to go join ISIS and kill our Soldiers. They Chop peoples heads off, throw gay people off of buildings, force women to wear a black Burka's in 120 degree weather and beat or stone to death Women if their Husbands cheat on them. Islam is a sickening religion with their Sharia Law and now were allowing radicals like Omar who was born in Somalia to be voted into the US Congress. Muslims hate Western Culture, but they want to come over here to spread their Crap that caused their Countries to be destroyed in the first place and now we have this Nutcase spewing her hate towards and American Allie.
     
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    I never blamed the Jewish people, but I see you are unable to discuss this intelligently and without misrepresentation.
     
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    Yes and I explained why.
     

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