Omicron spreads mostly among vaccinated

vaccines try to teach your body to fight the virus before you get the virus, after that it's up to your body to fight it if\when you get it

that is all a vaccine does

"Donald Trump recommends people to 'take the vaccine'"

Trump : "I recommend take the vaccines. I did it. It’s good. Take the vaccines"

 

“Nor do I care” is an immature response.

 

They should have, should have, should have......More whining and complaining.

When the stats revealed that over 90% of hospitalized Covid patients were unvaccinated, and dying of Covid related illnesses, there was no need to reformulate existing vaccines.

 

Facts are facts regardless of who reports them. Or are you one of those people that thinks anybody you disagree with always is out to harm you?

 

Tell the following claim to Thedimon;

“Every above average intelligent people know that vaccines aren’t 100% infection proof”

If he’s smart, he’ll agree with you.

 

They are all 0% infection proof. What they do benefits the vaccinated person after the infection arrives.

 

No need to repeat myself. You didn't like reading it.

 

Only in America can pro vaxxers and anti vaxxers believe the exact same disinformation (vaccines don’t prevent infections) and be diametrically opposed on their concluded positions based on that information.

 

This is absolutely untrue. One should not lie. One should tell the truth. I recommend that you tell the blaze, such a shining bastion of truthiness, that it should not lie.

 

Come on! Everyone knows that a vaccine creates an invisible protective layer of UV light above the skin, and prevents a virus from entering your body.

 

More importantly people have the impression that all of this virology stuff is news instead of being established medical science for a long time. The misinformation surrounding covid is truly amazing. I have fallen prey to some of it myself. I've spent many hours reading about virology. I'm certainly no expert but anyone who wants to can do what I did and have a reasonable layman's undertsanding of it. The information is free and readily available to anyone with a computer or cell phone. That would include everyone who posts on this forum. Instead the misinformation gets passed along and enhanced over and over.

Vaccines help the immune system prevent symptoms, not infections. It has always been so. In the best case the antibodies motivated by vaccines can overwhelm the viral infection before any symptoms occur. Covid vaccines have done that pretty well when we had the original virus. They are less effective with subsequent strains. All perfectly normal and expected. The public health doctors all know this. They just don't think explaining it to lay people is worth doing. So we have misinformation.

 

I challenge any vaxxer or anti vaxxer to present evidence in the form of a peer reviewed study or meta analysis of studies that vaccines don’t prevent infections and never have. Excluding toxoid vaccines of course for obvious reasons. Go…

 

What’s relevant is Vaccines have shown to significantly reduce the severity of Covid illnesses, Period.

 

That fact has relevance but so does the fact vaccines do prevent infections.

I’ll put your answer down in the strawman fallacy column. But you fail the challenge. Thanks for “trying”.

 

Of course they do (or they're supposed to). It's their entire raison d'etre!

 

Back tracking already? LMAO... You don't know a fraction of what you think you do. Sad really.

 

In this forum, I state indisputable facts, for example;

“Vaccines aren’t 100% infection proof”

Agree or disagree?

 

In your minute mind, I’m back tracking.

 

Are vaccines 100% infection proof?

 

Do you think you are making a point? Seriously dude, give it a rest.
The fact is that vaccines are created TO PREVENT INFECTION!!!! I feel like I'm talking to 5 year olds.

 

Evading?

Once again, are vaccines 100% infection proof?

 

No. Your comments about PCR testing and how it’s accuracy affects IFR and CFR was 100% incorrect. You are above average in the facts department, I’ll give you that!

Agree. But that wasn’t what my post asked for so I’ll put another mark for you in the strawman fallacy column.

 

Yes! It’s the goal when designing vaccines targeting pathogens.

 

How does one prove something that doesn't happen? Go.

 

There are a plethora of studies showing vaccines prevent infections. Here are a couple for SARS-CoV-2.

https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M21-1577

And:

https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n888

Clearly there is no need to prove a negative. If vaccines did not prevent infections there would be no difference in infection rates of vaccinated and unvaccinated groups.

Your turn. Please present a study where there is no difference in infection rates between vaccinated and unvaccinated.

For now you fail the challenge and also get a mark in the fallacy column.