One Christian who fought back.

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  1. elijah

    elijah New Member

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    true. But, as I said he they didn't have to listen.
     
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    that's true
     
  3. Daggdag

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    Freedom of speach is not allowed to violate the rights of others. Prayer in tax paid events, such as a public school graduation violates the separation of church and state, and can not be deemed free speeh.
     
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    He was right to do so - completly in harmony with our christian traditions - he said the right words in the right moment. By the way: Do you know the text of the Lords prayer? Do you know the four noble truthes? Do you know the five pillars of Islam and something about the history of the Islam? Do you know something about Brahman und Atman? ... And: What did you feel - how did you feel - when you was graduated? ... ¿What is the problem for atheists? ... Why did they like to change the traditions of this school? Why were they successfull?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBRDkdSOz6s
     
  5. Daggdag

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    He showed the people how to pray. He was in public. It is where the lord's prayer comes from.
     
  6. elijah

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    so, wouldn't westboro be wrong for what their doing at funerals? If what he did was a violation, then can't he be sued or arrested?

    I just don't understand. Freedom of speech is so confusing to me. I think you ought to be able to say what you want, when you want. I don't know if its because I've got "alligator" skin or what, but people getting "offended" always seemed "wimpy" to me.

    I know there are and should be limitations, but I just wish things weren't as "grey".

    I don't know, I guess its just beyond my comprehension.
     
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    I'd be more impressed if he didn't have a hillbilly accent. :blankstare:
     
  8. Daggdag

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    That is like saying I have the right to run around naked waving my dick in your face because you could just close your eyes.
     
  9. elijah

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    that's funny, but indecent exposure laws would protect me from that. However that "image" is hilarious!
     
  10. Anobsitar

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    "What I tell you in the dark, speak in the daylight; what is whispered in your ear, proclaim from the roofs."

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCq8zMd69us
     
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    yes, and the separation of church and state protects otbher people from a person forcing them to listen to his religious prayers as part of tax paid events.
     
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    No it doesn't and yes it can, in fact, it is free speech.
     
  13. Right Wing

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    You are comparing sexual assault to a voluntary prayer by a student at a graduation? Amazing!

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    Are you referring to Jefferson's letter or the establishment cause? Which one mentions tax paid events?
     
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    There's no need to believe in Satan for a Christian - the problem is more how to be able not to believe in Satanas. Jean Paul Satre: L'enfer, c'est les autres. Hell is other people. We could also say "hell is everywhere"- that's why it's good to believe in god, if someone doesn't like to close the own eyes. To love the world is sometimes not so easy.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5EgSkJd_Hs
     
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    There are lots of reasons to pray in our schools.

    A Jewish kid is sent to a Jewish school by his parents. After two weeks he is kicked out for fighting and laziness. So his parents raise the money and send him to a private school. However, after two weeks he is kicked out for fighting and laziness. Having no choice, the parents send the kid to a public school. However, after just one week he is suspended for fighting, lateness and laziness. His parents feel terrible. What to do, what to do! Finally they decide there is only one thing more they can do. So they enroll him in a Catholic school. Weeks go by and the boy is still in school. In fact, he has good grades and the nuns speak well of him. His parents are amazed. They ask the kid, “How is it you got kicked out of Jewish school, out of private school and out of public school but you don’t get kicked out of Catholic school?” "Well, when I saw that guy nailed to a plus sign I knew they weren't fooling around!"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZWm1pI-KZ8
     
  18. elijah

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    In the prussian army were once criminals from all over Germany. For a Bavarian everyone who comes from outside of Bavaria is a Prussian, a "Preiß". Prussians are speaking a "better" form of the german language. "Sau"="pig" is an expression for a human being without respect and it's the same time an animal we prefer to eat every day with a good apetite. Today we are using this expression for every German and every stranger who hurts our maxim "live and let live". It's today a more jokeful expression than a serios attack.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHVoriOXCs0
     
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    I laughed. :)

    Or was this meant to be serious?
     
  21. thebrucebeat

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    I made a request and you continuously ignored it. Instead of answering you kept deflecting with unrelated questions. I won't acknowledge your questions until you stop ignoring my request.
     
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    Do you think praying and preaching are the same thing?
    This does not impact what Jesus taught about prayer in the least.
     
  23. elijah

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    My request was to clarify your position. Will you do so? I don't want to wrongly assess your point.

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    Did Jesus pray in public?
     
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    Don't you get it?
    You don't have to clarify my position for you to substantiate your own. You are avoiding defending your statement, and I am not going to let these cowardly tactics just slide.
    I know how you love to use theological terms like hermeneutics to appear credible, but when given the opportunity to display your skill in it, you slither behind endless irrelevant questions.
    Do you think Jesus prayed in public?
     
  25. Incorporeal

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    I will answer that question. YES! Jesus prayed in public.
    The Garden of Gethsemane was a public place... Golgotha was a public place... So the real question is: what is a 'prayer'?
     

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