Only a fool would try to deprive working men and women of their right to join the union of their cho

No one in the corporation that is not union has a contract. But the corporation still will not fire someone unless they commit EXTREME offenses.

Union members however can be fired at any time

 

That's approximately correct. The only error in that is that the fees a non-union worker must pay may be a portion of what union members pay rather than equal to what they pay.

 

Then you work for an atypical corporation with an atypical union contract.

 

Unions are outdated, dying.
What did Obama do for unions?
I imagine if I tried to discuss tea to the the English, it would be a little sad and a little comedic.

 

That's true; under Beck vs. CWA the non-member is only required to pay a fee equal to only monies spent on contract negotiations/maintenance. We refer to them as "Core members". Once per year they are required to notify the union in writing that they are agency fee objectors in order to get a rebate on their fees paid. They normally receive back a check for around 20 % of fees already paid.

 

Obama did little for unions; however he left them alone unlike republican presidents who went after them.

 

Which unions do you think will be targeted first? Why? How?

 

All unions both private and public sector will be under attack by Trump because the US Chamber of Commerce and other conservative business groups want to render all unions impotent while they have the power to do so.

 

Which unions do you think will be targeted

What union is most powerful, why?

 

The same fool that required me to join the UFCW when I was 16 years old and working in a grocery store in Illinois. A job I was required to rent from a Union or be fired.

 

Since you know so much about my contract through the local, can you explain why the union was all in favor of a strike when the company offered a larger contract bonus, but much smaller increase in pension than the one that they endorsed that stripped new hires of a pension but had a significantly higher increase in pension?


I am unaware of any specific legislation that the AFL-CIO has endorsed that has any impact on me or workers in general. I do see them in lock step with democrats on a lot of social issues that have nothing to do with labor. I see them speak up often trying to bully non union shops, even after those non union shops vote down unions.

At for the last part, unlike many others, I think for myself. I don't need a politician or union leader, or even community organizer to tell me what's best for me.

 

So you are perfectly fine with me being forced to join a union to go to work for the government or Ford motor company or GMC? Where, I might add, a chunk of my paycheck will find its way into Democratic party coffers whether I like it or not.

 

Unless you provide the specifics of your union and the contracts and negotiations we can't really discuss that can we...

As far as At for the last part, unlike many others, I think for myself. I don't need a politician or union leader, or even community organizer to tell me what's best for me

Try negotiating with a company by yourself....you'll take what they offer or move along

 

Union membership is outdated when capitalism fades away.Till then it is labor's only alternative to the excesses of capitalism.

And their decline in membership is a direct result of REPUBLICAN attacks on them for over 30 years

 

As noted...the attack on unions comes from the Republican Party. You expect unions NOT to respond?

 

The key here isn't whether or not the Unions are responding to Republican attacks but that they would use my money against my will to do it.

 

Bullshit. What other method would they have other than the dues paid in by their members (which they then use for the BENEFIT of those members to fend off attacks by Republican legislators)?

Your comment makes no sense

 

How does electing leftist idiots that are going to put me out of work benefit me?

 

The only Union Republicans have gone after were public sector unions, and at this point they don't have much choice the sweet heart deals democrats have cut them over the last fifty years simply aren't tenable.

 

Unions are fine for those that want to join...

Just don't force me to join and use my dues to support things I'm against.

It's called fredom.............

 

They seen how RTW brought in jobs in other state and really the only Union's they do attack is public sector ones and you are aware FDR was also against them.


Answer me a question why would a government employee need a union to protect ones self from ones self?


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That remains to be seen; wouldn't surprise me if all unions will be targeted. Trump supports a national right-to-work law which would impact all unions regards of "power".

 

How do they benefit from putting you out of work? They lose valuable tax dollars if you don't work.

 

It's not about "protecting" yourself, it's about representation should you need help. If you are non-union they can terminate you without just cause for almost no reason; the union will fight for you and make them prove they had just cause to terminate your employment; further the union will negotiate wages and other terms and conditions of employment for you and it is a legal binding contract.

Would you buy a house or new car without signing a contract? If no one needs a contract to work, then why do all CEO's and Executives of most major corporations have personal service agreements (aka labor contracts)? You think the CEO's are stupid? They want to protect themselves financially in case something goes wrong. Hence the so-called "Golden parachutes" they receive if they lose their jobs. People shouldn't condemn unions just because they hear bad things most likely spread by the uninformed.

 

The answer is the same as the one the right gives when we complain about most of new income going to the top 2%: find another job that is more to your liking. No one forces you to work for the government of Ford or GM.