Only a fool would try to deprive working men and women of their right to join the union of their cho

Are you afraid to be clear and specific?

 

Nope this was more to leftist hypocrisy! The entire time Oberry is spoken of, its Shangri-La! Job growth/creation, economic growth yada yada, but golly gee bring up a subject of Unionization and the fault is the Republicans have strayed!?

It's absolute leftist nonsense! The Republicans have ran on growth, creation and prosperity for as long as I can remember whereas the Leftist agenda has simply been protectionism from the very people that create opportunity in this country!

 

Democrats are great in forcing people to do things they dont want to do. Forced to join a union, forced to buy obamacare. If those things were so wonderful people would be willing to buy in without being forced to.

 

Prior to Right to Work, genius, if you wanted a job at a unionized company, you HAD to join the union.

Sure, you could look elsewhere for employment, but if transportation or other issues were in play, you be ****ed.

Like I said, it's how you look at it.

BTW, labor unions suck dead dog balls. Trade unions, are a bit less useless.

 

Ya mean like how the ACLU has written to Congress urging opposition to pending bills that seek to criminalize advocacy of boycotts against Israeli settlements in the West Bank? The ACLU warned that proponents of the bills are "seeking additional co-sponsors," and explained that the bills would "punish individuals for no reason other than their political beliefs." Ya mean like that?

 

I'll take that as the sentiment of a pro-union person ..... i.e, essentially worthless.

 

Right to work is a catchy slogan created by those who wish American workers that a race to the bottom is something to win. The laws that prevent compelling people to join unions have been in place nearly 70 years.

 

Those laws are/were for show, as I explained..... Or why else would there be passed legislation allowing people to work in a Union Shop, W/O joining the union(s)?

Thanks for proving my point.

 

If Capitalism is in decline, then the boys in DC best figure out a new way to pay for things. We will not have cash to pay for Government if it is in decline.

 

So someone that is pro union shouldn't have their opinion matter?


And that was the sentiment of a former member of said union.

 

Wow, more insanity from the left. During Ike's time there were no 'public unions'. Unions have fallen out of favor with the rank and file. Too bad.

 

Instead of insulting others, you should bone up on your reading skills; I never said prior to RTW; it is currently law that you cannot be compelled to join a union as a condition of employment whether or not you are in a right-to-work (aka right-to-starve). People might take you a little more seriously if you do.

Again, you might try to stick to addressing the issue at hand; you impress no one when you stoop to the level you have. That being said, if you continue with your verbal diatribes I'll simply ignore your posts.

 

You are making a blanket statement which is totally false.

 

I don't run down rabbit holes.

 

Except for the facts, you might have something.

 

I don't think you have working clue one about what you're talking about, so, I really couldn't care less about anything you've stated.

So, there you go.

 

Claiming the economy is driven by unions and union membership is frankly idiotic. Unions are simply one tiny piece of the puzzle.

 

and I made that claim where?

 

yeah, if not for blanket statements it might be some truth to the matter.

Well that's a typical response expected; you have no real answers to my statement.

 

Your entire post. For example ".... the decline of the middle class coincided with the decline of unions. These are cause and effect." Maybe the cause of the decline in the middle class is the shift in the union objective to a national "progressive" political organization. Unions no longer act as the employees representative during good faith discussions with the employer, they now act as a propaganda and funding and manpower source for the "progressive" party. And maybe that's why union membership has declined so tremendously.

Its far more complicated than just "union membership = a healthy middle class", that's just ridiculously simplistic to the point of propaganda.

 

Some things are that simple. A large segment of the middle class gave up collective bargaining and believe it was their greed and not that of the uber rich that sent jobs to China. They are no longer in the middle class, those that held strong to their unions still are in the middle class.
Even more amazing, despite being unionized those shops are still having record profits. How about that?

 

You should probably stand on that comment you made, where you said you'd ignore my posts.

 

So only 6.4% of private sectors workers are middle class? ONLY shops that are unionized show record profits?

 

So if we bring Union's back what will happen, where will people work?

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You mean those big union redoubts like Detroit and Pittsburg?