Orthodox Jews Protest Against Suppression of Their Religious Rights

Making personal attacks on the Satmar-NK's rather than addressing the truths they expressed is a sign that you have lost the debate.

 

I did not lose anything I won the ears and the heart of the educated readers...
The SATMAR-NETUREI KARTA are a bunch of duplicitous dr--k, and a malediction ... towards 'AM ISRAEL'...
They give the rest of us a bad name, they trample Judaism to their level, they are a bunch of ignominious bas--rds that is exactly what they are.
They have made pacts with Ahmedinejad and Khameini against the rest of us Jews. And you have the goal to promote these rejects of society and call them Jews???

Satmar/Naturei Karta
Satmar + Naturei Karta are TWO minute SECTS calling themselves Jews, one the "SATMAR" and the other "NATUREI KARTA" are sister SECTS totaling a few thousands each... The majority of the SATMAR live in Brooklyn or Kiryat-Yoel in the US and, the majority of the NATUREI KARTA = Guardian of the Gates live in a quarter in Jerusalem called MEA SHEARIM = One hundred Gates.
Both sister organizations are the most virulent Anti - Israel and Anti-Zionist groups on this earth.
In reference to the above, I have on several occasions asked myself... why does a Jew (if in reality these people consider themselves Jews) abhors and abominates another Jew, denigrates him and tramples upon him by all kind of public Newspaper ads and Electronic Links? Is it passion, zeal, religious fervor, or plain old "hate and fear" of the educated, the learned the emancipated, the cultured/cultivated and the enlightened? What is it then? Well, through the years of researches I have come to a unique realization.
It is obvious that the confrontation is between two forces, the forces of light versus the forces of darkness...
The forces of light are the average educated Jew not necessarily religious who believes in the RECONSTITUTION of the State of Israel and… The forces of darkness are these same Satmar + Naturei Karta who are the quasi-religious Jews who follow the dictates of their UNLEARNED RABBI (none of them BTW can produce a diploma from a college/university of higher learning) who have summarily ordered to their quasi followers to honor and believe that Israel CAN BE ONLY RECONSTITUTED WHEN THE MESSIAH returns TO EARTH... These two backward sects project the behavior of the dark ages of the 11th Century Europe, they also act, dress, and behave accordingly.
The readers of this thread will pick and chose and differentiate between these two forces;
a) Those that are emancipated... versus…
b) Those that pop out like a sore thumb in the middle of the 21st Century, dressed in black "Regalia" of the Ghetto/Shtetl of Medieval Europe, and are still thinking and behaving accordingly.
I do RESPECT [my Brothers & Sisters] the religious Jews that know the limits of their Religiosity, and do not offend anyone... for their prayers and fervor are dedicated to G-d HASHEM ELOKIM.
Would I have the same tendentious RESPECT towards the leader of the SATMAR, Joel Teitelbaum, who in 1950 issued a "ukase" (decree) prohibiting his followers from learning and speaking Hebrew? NO!
Would I have any respect for the present leader of the SATMAR + NATUREI KARTA who orders his followers to burn the Israeli Flag on Purim and Lag Ba-Omer holidays, while giving the young children their first hair cut? NO!
Would I love my fellow Jew of the SATMAR + NATUREI KARTA who Joins in demonstration with the PLO/PA demanding the destruction of the 'State of Israel? NO!
Would I be going in the street on the orders of the SATMAR + NATUREI KARTA Rebbe stoning cars for any reason? NO!
These are only a sample of what the "SATMAR" and the "NATUREI KARTA" have had for us since a Long Time. They say that the State of Israel by its very existence is an abomination against G-d. What an heresy, what a pompous deliberate infamy what a lie what an ignominy!
These quasi Hassidism = Religious Jews, from which the SATMAR + NATUREI KARTA sprung, from a social movement that was originally founded in Eastern Europe by Israel Baal Shem Tov (1699-1760), usually referred to by the acrostic BeShT. It taught that what G-d wanted of man WAS NOT asceticism and the mortification of the flesh, but devotion or (DVEKUT), Joy (SIMHAH), Enthusiasm (HITLAHVUT).
These two-minute Sects have no right whatsoever to speak on behalf of Judaism since they take their orders from their misinformed, backward and maladjusted Rebbe.
Please do not take these “scorn of humanity” neither as any responsible body nor as a representative of Judaism and the State of Israel... They only represent their pitiful self!


NATUREI KARTA/SATMAR
BAAL SHEM TOV, ISRAEL BEN ELIEZER (c.1700-1760):

Founder of Hasidism. Little is known of his life and there exist no reliable biographical documents. According to legend, he was orphaned while a child and spent a great deal of his time in solitude and meditation in the woods and fields around his hometown in Podolia. For many years he was assistant to a teacher and acted as sexton of the bet midrash. Until his "disclosure" (Heb. hitgalut, an important concept in Hasidism, signifying the disclosure of one's true worth and message), he studied assiduously, acquiring wide knowledge of both the revealed and secret law but concealed his knowledge and affected the personality of a simple, unlettered Jew. He then traveled in Podolia, Volhynia, and Galicia where by virtue of his prayers and amulets (kemiot), he achieved a reputation as a healer of the sick and a comforter to those in need, so that he soon became known as a BAAL Shem (or Baal Shem Tov i.e., "master of the good Name" abbreviated to BeSHT). However the charms, which he distributed, contained none of the holy names of God, but only his own and his mother's name "Israel son of Sarah". Folklore has woven a halo around his personality and his life, which it describes from birth to death as a miraculous chain of events: Elijah the prophet foretold his birth; his soul was a spark from that of the Messiah; and he was taught both esoteric and secret Torah by Elijah himself. About 1740, the period of solitude and concealment ended and the time for his "disclosure"arrived.
He thereupon settled in Medzibozh where he established a bet Midrash that attracted admirers and scholars from far and near. They came for guidance in the service of God, to receive B.'s blessing, and beseech his prayer and intercession for their spiritual and physical welfare. He declared that his mission was "to stir the hearts of those seeking communion with God. This contains nothing new. It adds nothing. It is merely a reminder, a strengthening of that faith which has somehow been forgotten." While drawing heavily upon the kabalistic doc-trines of Isaac Luria, he invested them with new meaning and thus created an original and distinctive type of Mysticism. B. did not himself commit his teachings to writing; they were handed down orally and preserved in numerous sayings recorded by his pupils. His sayings inculcated joy and warmth in his followers and warned against sadness and mortification, which "stultify the heart". Even the most simple may serve the omnipresent God by means of inner joy. Many stories are found in Hasidic folklore describing B. and the great leaders of Hasidism at prayer. True prayer was pictured as a state, which freed the personality from the trammels of the body and allowed fusion of the soul with God. When B. prayed, it was said that his entire body used to tremble; that those present were seized with shivering, and that the building would shake. The emphasis on "intention" (Kavanah), which formed one of the major points of controversy concerning the movement, was a further basic tenet of B. Kavanah, he said, is the "soul of the deed". The central pillar of his teaching was love - love for God, for the Torah, for Israel and all other facets of Hasidism may be considered as being directed toward its realization. His bet midrash and the shrine erected over his grave became centers of pilgrimage. His movement was continued by two of his pupils, R. Jacob Joseph of Polonnoye, whose writings include many of B.'s authentic sayings, and R. Dov Ber of Mezirich who succeeded B. as the leader of Hasidism.

 

The article was very interesting and a good source for admiration of the Jewish doctors.
But the problem with the sexual behavior of Jews is that it is very much like that of the Gentiles and Christians.

What we see and have seen, is the rise of the Jews economically even in pre-Nazi Germany, followed by a support for feminism and the perversion of the Jewish people just as we have seen in one European nation after another.
As happened to those Nations, the Jewish people have fallen backwards again and again in the same manner.

As for your comment about "the whole bl@@@@dy world should be on fire,"... the writers of Revelation added to our Jewish apocalypse many things that support the predictions they made:


Rev. 17:3 So he carried me away (in the spirit of thought), into the wilderness (of my imagination) and I saw (as if) a woman, ...



.... (those who have Institutionalized a system of sexual seduction into a failed matrimony), sit upon a scarlet coloured beast (of a brazen and corrupt sexually misdirected economic system: [Dan 3:1-5]), full of names of (Pagan) blasphemy, having seven heads:
(which existed in (1) Egypt, (2) Assyria, (3) Babylon, (4) Persia/Mede, (5) Greece, (6) Rome (7) the whole of Western Culture to follow)...



... having ten horns upon these seven heads:
(1. Undivided Empire; capital Rome: [305 AD],

2. Western Roman Empire: (Romulus Augustus): [to 476 AD],

3. Eastern Roman: Byzantine Empire, [1453 AD]

4. Charlemagne, [800 - 1000 AD]

5. Holy Roman Empire, [1200 AD-1492 AD]

6. Italy, [Renaissance, 16th century]

7. Spain, [17th century]

8. France, [18th-19th Century]

9. Britain, [19th-20th century]

10. Nazi Germany, [20th century])


11. America next…?

 

i would love to see a debate between neturei karta and chazars!

 

I ask you for the second time as an Israeli... what is a chazars?????

 

The unedited full-text of the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/4279-chazars

Decline and Fall of the Chazars.
A people of Turkish origin whose life and history are interwoven with the very beginnings of the history of the Jews of Russia. The kingdom of the Chazars was firmly established in most of South Russia long before the foundation of the Russian monarchy by the Varangians (855). Jews have lived on the shores of the Black and Caspian seas since the first centuries of the common era. Historical evidence points to the region of the Ural as the home of the Chazars. Among the classical writers of the Middle Ages they were known as the "Chozars," "Khazirs," "Akatzirs," and "Akatirs," and in the Russian chronicles as "Khwalisses" and "Ugry Byelyye."

 

Take more drugs and you'll see it.

 

got a link?

 

I have it in front of me now. Which page does he state he is still Jewish with all the trappings of being a worshiping Jew and that the title of his book is a lie and that he is a Jew who follows the faith according the religious norms?

 

Here is Tel Aviv University's website:


http://english.tau.ac.il/


Go ahead and ask him yourself.

Fill us in on the details when he replies. This should prove to be interesting ....

 

I asked what page as you want me to read the book so stop moving the goal posts and prove your turd that he is Jewish according to any and all definitions.