Our right to drop off our kids at a safe school outweighs your right to guns

UK, 65 million.
Denser population.

So divide your murders and massacres by 6 to see if they match ours. Here's clue, they don't.
Go to Japan 120 million. Denser population still. Divide their murder and massacre rate by 2 or 3. They don't either.

 

The Supreme Court disagrees with you time and time again.

The purpose of the 2nd Amendment and the rest of the Bill of Rights are widely thought to be as a check on the power the government has over the people. How does it make any sense to give the rights afforded by the Bill of Rights to the government but not the people?

That is illogical.

 

Milita = home guard.

What do you call it, National Guard?
The guys Rambo fights.

So what kind of guns do you need to hunt?
An Ak47?
No.
A pistol?
No.
A sawn off shotgun?
No.
A high capacity magasine?
No.
An automatic?
No.

So already we can trim down the types of allowable guns and yet still leave you in a position to use the tools you require.

How do you enforce these laws? Most guns are registered by law abiding citisens so enforcing any ban is real easy. Outside of that a state of emergency to allow houses to be entered and searched without the need of time consuming warrants.
You have a ****ing massive army and a ****ing massive police force. You can enforce it.

One of the simplest methods of enforcement is this. Ban the sales of ammunition.
Enforce this on a few shops, or even just a factory or two and it's over. Totally doable.

The gun guys want to tell you it can't be done. It would be illegal, unable to pass into law. And unenforceable even if it did, a civil war.
Bullcrap.
Old men whinging.

 

The Supreme Court is not infallible. Do you agree with Roe vs Wade? Point made. Checkmate.

 

Well, as the Reps lose power and the Dems take control they will have to invalidate the 2A.

Society is getting more messed up every day that goes by. I see this trend only getting worse and not better. People in the 50's and 60's were not as burnt out and messed up as they are nowadays. The food supply is a mess, radiated and devoid of nutrition. People are bombarded with all sort of radio waves and electromagnetic radiation.

With the mass amount of homeless people we have in the US, some cities resort to confiscating the tents and demolishing homeless camps so the homeless have a better chance of dying quickly.

Obama left the US in a very confused state. Previous to Obama, there was no dispute that a man with a penis is not a women. After Obama, if you disagree that a man with a penis is a woman then you are labeled a homophobe and bigot. As you destroy societal standards it effects ALL areas of society.

The gov and rich push people over the edge. You need 3 or 4 roommates to afford a closet and some dog food to eat. Recently in the news they said the dog food may contain poison to euthanize dogs so they are recalling it...that is life in 2018.

Look at this guy. He got pushed over the edge by Uber. He could have taken out a bunch of people, but he did the honorable thing and he just took himself out.

https://www.democracynow.org/2018/2/7/nyc_taxi_driver_kills_himself_at

Really, I am surprised there are not mass killings every few day with the amount of confused and mentally ill people we have in the USA.

 

Is that it? You want me to compare you and your beautiful and great country to this?
Bolllocks.
I will compare you to Britain and Japan and Australia.

To great and successful countries. Peaceful cultured and happy.
****ing Venezuala. ****ing Somalia. ****ing Columbia.

AAArgh.
Set yourself a higher goal to aspire to.

 

Lets say they confiscate all guns but single shot rifles. Then the hidden sniper will be out there terrorizing people...so confiscate single shots. That is how gun confiscation work...they want them all.

With freedom you have abuses. I'll keep my guns and my freedom.

 

Let me ask you, do you kill a Bunny with a 30.06, and do you shoot a elk with a .22 caliber? Do you hunt ducks with a 22 caliber, 30.06 or a shotgun? Do you plink Prairie Dog, Gophers or Coyote with a Shotgun, 22 caliber, 30.06 or a varmint round like a .223 or .204 caliber? What if you enjoy summer gathering and Bowling pin match's, do you take a rifle to a handgun event?

 

And would like to talk abut the problems Australia is having with illegal guns and the sudden rise in home invasions and over all crime? How about you folks and

Hardly out of the woods for a country with a paltry 65 Million

 

True.
The answer lies in a stronger, healthier and independent people who are self-regulated, not weaker dependent ones who hold the world responsible for what they do or feel.
That is politically unpopular, of course. Blaming others and passing the buck is a proven vote-getter.

 

Your strategy is like treating cancer by attempting to eliminate environmental carcinogens. Cancer happens inside the body, not outside of it. A better strategy is to render the carcinogens ineffective inside the body, so that it doesn’t matter if they exist outside of it.

Take asbestos for example. Asbestos is linked to cancer so it was banned. What would the world look like today if instead of banning asbestos we worked on a process to unlink it? Asbestos fibers are stronger than steel. It’s more insulating that fiber glass. It’s fire proof. It’s actually a great material to engineer into our technology. Asbestos technologies would save lives.

I realize it’s a strained analogy, but the point is that the world is constaintly presenting you with danger. Wisdom is the ability to turn that danger into an advantage. I mean, banning peroxide? It’s chemically useful because it’s a powerful oxidizer. It’s not the only one bomb makes can use though...

 

You are being responsive to fear- not to the realities. That is why the situation does not change.

 

You left out Switzerland for example which has very relaxed gun laws & very little gun crime.
Many of the highest gun crime U.S. cities are also those with the most restrictive gun laws.
However, it's logically flawed to compare one country to another Re: gun control effectiveness because of the different demographic make up between countries.
Criminals, by definition, do not obey laws.

 

It is irrelevant whether or not I agree with Roe Vs. Wade. The fact is the Supreme Court ruled and I accept their decision. Until such time as it is overturned, which is unlikely to ever occur, or the The Constitution is amended otherwise, their decision dictates certain rights.

We don't get to pick and choose which laws we follow based on emotion.

 

It does?

Charlie Hebdo office in Paris - 7-9 January 2015 - 17 dead, 22 wounded
The Eagles of Death Metal concert inside the Bataclan - 13-14 November 2015 - 130 dead, 368 wounded.
April 2017 Champs-Élysées attack. An Islamist opened fire on police officers on the Champs-Elysees. 1 dead, 3 wounded.

When the French made it even tougher to get guns............

A 19 tonne cargo truck was deliberately driven into crowds celebrating Bastille Day on the Promenade des Anglais in Nice - 14 July 2016 - 86 dead, 434 wounded.

The guy with the cargo truck was almost as lethal as the dudes at the Bataclan with AK's. Colt started selling the AR-15 in 1964. The AK-47 has been in production since 1949. Columbine was the first really orchestrated school shooting on April 20, 1999. That's 35 years between introduction of the AR-15 and Columbine and 50 years since the introduction of the AK-47. Fascinating how for 35 years there were no mass school shootings with either the AR-15 or AK-47, but as realistic first person shooter computer games advanced realistically in conjunction with reckless prescribing of psychotropic drugs to teens and the school mass shootings started. If people are serious about stopping the tide of disturbed teens buying or stealing a AR-15 and shooting up a school like a first person shooter game, then those games should be banned for sale and possession. Add to that removing a psychiatrists ability to prescribe psychotropic drugs without the OK of a real physician. Blaming the gun is like a miner finding fool's gold. Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols killed 168 people, injured more than 680 others with a truck bomb, get rid of the real problem.....the first person shooter computer games and the psychotropic drugs for teens.

 

My point is that it will be overturned. It is likely to occur as long as we continue to have an escalation of mass murders in this country. It is inevitable.

 

Funny how statistics like that get missed

 

Just opinion, and considering your track record so far in this thread there is a 99% chance this too is wrong

 

Maybe Heller will be overturned. I think the chances for that are just about the same as for Roe being overturned. Nil.

 

More astute legal minds seem to disagree with your curious interpretation of the Constitution.

 

You are talking about two different things. You are using a false analogy. International terrorists are not the same as white American males massacring school children.

 

Sorry, but yes it does..........

 

As I already said......Fascinating how for 35 years there were no mass school shootings with either the AR-15 or AK-47, but as realistic first person shooter computer games advanced realistically in conjunction with reckless prescribing of psychotropic drugs to teens and the school mass shootings started. If people are serious about stopping the tide of disturbed teens buying or stealing a AR-15 and shooting up a school like a first person shooter game, then those games should be banned for sale and possession. Add to that removing a psychiatrists ability to prescribe psychotropic drugs without the OK of a real physician. Blaming the gun is like a miner finding fool's gold.

 

Our right to drop off our kids at a safe school outweighs your right to guns

No, it does not. In any case the two alternatives presented are not mutually exclusive.

 

Wouldn't make a whole lot of sense to consider "The People" as military LMAO! Kind of takes all the real meaning of protecting ones self from oppressive government doesn't it hhahahah