Over 63 million abortions have occurred in the US since Roe v. Wade decision in 1973

Just think of all that money the state saved in health, education and benefits.

 

It costs nothing to put the child up for adoption, last I checked. So now you are gonna give an excuse as to why murder is the preferred option because your guilt can't stand that you have abandoned an offspring somewhere out there in the world.

Don't do the thing that would put you on a guilt trip you need to murder to get out from under?

I mean you are pretty much a shitty person with either choice but at least adoption isn't killing someone over your guilt.

So ya. Jam a coat hanger up your **** and die from infection. I don't care. You are horrible

 

Easy to say much, much harder to do. You really are all talk albeit the 'tough' bit is open to debate.

 

What's hard about it? Describe the process. A woman giving birth at the hospital can fill out forms surrendering the baby to the state. That's about it.

Please bullshit me more and try to outline a process so difficult that murder is the better path.


I'll wait.

 

You know what’s hilarious. That in the future when humanity looks back at this period hundreds of years from now… they’re going to say how racist the liberals were for supporting a policy that killed so many black babies.

nah bro. That doesn’t work anymore after your mask mandates. You lost the right to assert bodily autonomy for abortion when your side forced the citizenry to sacrifice their bodily autonomy when you were terrified of a virus with a 99.9% survival rate. We told y’all not to do that dumb ****. We EVEN explicitly told you that you were gonna get blowback on abortion for it. But y’all didn’t listen. How many times did we try to tell y’all “my body, my choice”? We weren’t doing that to hear ourselves talk. We were making a point to you.

Sorry. Would you like to try your next excuse?

 

Do it when your carrying a child that has genetic deformity (as an example) and get back to me. And no I don't like 'like/support abortion I simply detest the alternative far more.

 

Testify my brother

 

You detest adoption more than abortion?

Wtf?

 

Only in states that have passed laws to that effect which were really only done to create legal challenges to RvW. In every facet of society other than what is done with the explicit purpose of stopping abortions, we do not treat a fetus as a person. Not in the law, not in our customs, not in our language.

 

You are seriously comparing wearing a mask with pregnancy?
You must be very desperate to argue that.

 

Once more the 'challenged'.

I don't detest adoption more than abortion. I clearly stated that I detested forcing pregnancy upon a women against her will after all available alternatives have been presented to her. I have no problem with adoption.

 

Lol let’s correct that statement if you don’t mind.

Nobody forced pregnancy on her unless she was raped. She She CHOSE to engage in a process which resulted in her getting oregnant.

Now if you were to say they’re forcing her to deal with the consequences of her choice. I’ll agree. But nobody is forcing her to get pregnant.

 

The left is no more in lock-step with each other than the right is. What you call lock-step on the left you would call shared opinion on the right. For example, many right-wingers believe in the 2nd amendment. Does this mean they are all in "lockstep" with each other with the same negative implications you attach to the concept when it comes to left-wingers?

Instead, I think what is happening is that it is easy to see the nuance in the groups you share identity with, and easy to think of those you don't as a singular collective. Even on this site there's more than enough evidence to show that the left is not any more a singular collective than the right is.

It's sort of like looking at one of those housing developments where all the houses look the same. It's not until you're actually in each house that you see the nuance and variation and personality. Likewise with social groupings, it's easy to see the nuance of the group you're in, because you're in it. And it's not as easy to see it in the group you aren't(and especially not when they are your main opponent). Because you aren't in that group. You're not close enough and probably don't care enough to see the nuance.

 

And I’ll ask you the same thing I asked the other guy. If y’all don’t care that a man has ZERO rights in regards to whether his unborn child lives or dies… why should we give a damn about womens rights in regards to their unborn child?

That’s an honest question btw. Not trying to hit you with a “gotcha” question. Honestly if y’all don’t care that I have zero rights in regards to my unborn child… why should I care about restricting a woman’s rights to what she wants to do with the unborn child?

Why is it acceptable to remove ALL rights from the man in regards to his unborn child but it’s COMPLETELY unacceptable to do the same to a woman?

 

And btw we tell people what to do with their bodies ALL the time. Ignoring the lefts mask mandates for a second, we have seatbelt laws, drug laws, laws against public nudity, laws against public displays of sexual behavior, laws against suicide, etc etc… I don’t know WHERE y’all get this idea that a woman MUST have bodily autonomy when nobody else does lol

 

Again it comes down to actually finding ways to reduce the NEED for abortion by finding real solutions to unwanted pregnancy and ways of supporting women in poverty - especially women with dependents. Those two things alone would go a long long way to reducing abortion

 

Wait am I supposed to feel bad the woman is in poverty?

Awwww that poor poor woman in poverty. Doesn’t have enough money to help pay for her baby so she gets to just murder it instead.

It’s weird, if a man is living in poverty and gets a woman pregnant, y’all don’t give a **** about him being in poverty. In fact, you’ll go through the courts to FORCE him to pay money for that child that he can’t afford. And institute laws enforcing those payments.

So tell us again why we should give a damn if the woman is in poverty? Cause y’all don’t give a damn if the man is in poverty do you?

 

The sex and the pregnancy are two separate things. Yes a woman chose to have sex(in my hypothetical the woman has fully consented without coercion). Yes pregnancy can result from sex. No, choosing to have sex with that potential outcome does not mean you have to live with that outcome just because. That's the arbitrary part. Using this logic, we should deny care to those who developed diabetes through their own actions? We should refuse care to people injured in car accidents that happened because they were driving unsafely?

Rather, being stuck with the lifelong consequences of your choices is one thing that modern society and modern science has alleviated. In days past, say you were goofing off and got a nasty cut on your arm. Before the beginnings of modern medicine and especially antiseptics and antibiotics, you could literally die from that cut and there was nothing anyone can do. Your logic says this person deserved to die from that cut. But now they don't have to.

 

OK you have my permission to personally imprison a woman who doesn't wish to carry a baby to term, force feed her etc, impose the appropriate medical care upon her against her will and then, when she comes to term, physically restrain her during the birth. And you'll have to do all that yourself. Because otherwise there's the possibility she'll attempt to escape to a jurisdiction/country where she can have an abortion

Just one mandatory requirement. YOU have to do do it, no outsourcing or escaping responsibility by getting others do do it. As for me? Sorry I don't have the stomach for it. You might want to live the Hand Maids Tale in real life, I don't.

 

But you’re talking about two different things. She’s not receiving medical care because she NEEDS it. Shes receiving medical care for the SOLE PURPOSE of trying to abdicate responsibility for a child. The VAST majority of abortions aren’t because they need it or because they were forced into that position.

They made a poor decision and they don’t like the results from that decision. So they take steps to remove that burden.

That’s not the same as requiring medical care because you’ve been injured. Essentially your argument can be made for any murderer.

Explain this to me. What’s the difference between having a late term abortion (when it’s not used for health or rape or incest) and simply suffocating the baby when you bring it home three days later? What’s the difference?

 

I don’t suggest any such thing. What I suggest is to do to the woman getting an abortion the EXACT same thing you would do to a man who assaulted that woman on the way to her abortion provider that resulted in the babies death.

Charge her with murder.

If you can charge and convict a man who assaults that pregnant woman who loses her baby with murder, on WHAT GROUNDS do you assert it’s not murder if the woman kills that exact same baby at the exact same date of pregnancy through an abortion?

Either it’s a life or it’s not. Which one is it?

 

This isn't about kids, that much is painfully obvious.

It's about power, White power, to be precise about it.

Voting, abortion, racism, it's all the same grab for power.

 

If it was for white power we would be for abortion not against it, given that per capita blacks are FAR more likely to abort.

I mean damn we are trying to end a practice that has resulted in literally tens of millions of black babies dead.

Of course to the liberal that means, WHITE SUPREMACY!!!1!1!1!!! lol

 

Did I say it was?