Parents of 'Adolf Hitler' Lose Custody of Newborn

What political ideology has been on a concerted, at least 50 year quest to 'broaden' definitions of morality, tear down traditional American values, folkways and mores, and alleviate, or altogether remove consequences for personal irresponsibility?

Take your disingenuous promotion of "responsibility" and insert it....

 

You are so right.

Socialists and fascists are just two sides of the same big government / central authority coin.

Modern liberals have given up the dream of owning all the factories since they have proven so inept at the classic socialist model.

But they learned from the fascists that all they have to do is allow private ownership of production while they use government to tax an regulate the output.

Modern libs do not think of themselves as fascists but that is the economic model they have adopted.

 

The whole thing is further confused due to the liberal concept of nationalism on the 'global village' scale. They are no less nationalists than the most ardent fascists, they simply expanded their idea of nationalism. It is through such insidious methods they can attempt to rewrite perceptions of fascism to be a right leaning ideology, in which nation states still see themselves and necessary and important entities.

They have not given up the dream set forth by Marx, they simply learned that it will never be attained with open support of such failed ideas. They have gone into stealth mode and will continue to pushed the flawed concepts regardless of how many times it fails. For some reason they feel they can perfect stupid. Its mind boggling.

 

See: Environmentalism.

Co-opted refuge for domestic and global collectivists.

 

---Don't invoke morality and American values to substantiate the irrational. Morality and American values are worthless if they harbor toxic elements that someday may consume you. You may cry foul all you like but in the end the only rule is: SURVIVE. When you are faced with individuals cultivating and disseminating an ideal or idea that is potentially harmful to your own survival it is your prerogative to destroy them or to debilitate them, whether you muster the force of the state or abandon it to do so.
---You have this mentality that liberty for the sake of liberty will meet a consensus when it becomes an imposition on others. I don't think so. Only an idiot says "well it is his right to propagate something that someday may cost me life, limb or property". The intelligent and sophisticated will present the veneer of consensus while they plot behind your back. The stupid and unsophisticated, like Heath Campell, will show all their cards and then cry foul when they get taken.
---I am not the one being disingenuous. I am not the one, unlike yourself, being subjective with items like "my liberty". I have considered the children and their rights, which you have ignored entirely in favor or promoting liberty for the sake of liberty, no matter how stupid it is.
---I love America and her ideals but they come at a cost. One such cost is that if you want to win you have to become intelligent and sophisticated. Stupid people that cannot employ subtlety will lose more often than they win and in this case, Heath and Deborah Campell showed their hand to society at large (their competitors) and were taken care of. Don't disgrace liberty by using a moron like Heath Campbell to defend it.

 

You are correct, but its a new approach from their more radical and open endorsement of Marxism seen prior to the end of the Cold War.

 

A vapid statement that neglects both history and reality.

 

It only ignores the revisionist history you libs try to toss at us. Its ok Toddy, I know reality and history don't fit into the liberal ideal, such responses are expected these days.

 

There is a hockey player out there in the NHL named Miroslav Satan. So are we supposed to assume that the guy is a Satanist because of the spelling of his last name? Are you that friggin' dense?

 

Then why don't you hurry up and assassinate Obama already? After all, he is the one selling our country down the river and destroying the American way of life with his socialist policies. C'mon now, hero! Here's your chance to redeem yourself and avenge your dead relatives' deaths at the hands of socialism.

I am half Polish and my great-uncle died at Auschwitz, by the way. So don't preach at me about how the Holocaust only affected your dumb ass. You ain't the only victim here.

 

Although there might be a fair argument for a Dale Carnegie course on child names, I don't recall the Gestapo movement having arrived in the USA until Obama took office.

 

To be fair, I have to point out Waco and Ruby Ridge....

two of many.

 

You give your agents of the state more authority to go after a family who's done nothing but name their children onerous, socially 'unapproved' names....

yet, the 'broadening morality' of progressivism, and the toxic progressive welfare state you hold harmless....the actual phyiscal abuse, the welfare system gaming, the generational poverty and resultant lawlessness and within....the stystemic replacement of humbleness and shame for the self inflicted results of bad choices, with arrogant demands on government (other peoples money) to 'fix them'

Again...disingenuous.

The 'mentality' I have surrounds maximum individual liberty as long as it remains within the foundational concept "Your rights end where mine begin", and I don't want to give the state increasing authority to base perceived violations of this notion on 'what ifs' or maybe's. The Waco and Ruby Ridge tragedies were the results of just that.

All authoritarian entities have an inherent propensity to expand 'their' power, scope, and expense...incrementally permitting such... under the auspices of state determined "common good'...ALWAYS presents more and more challenges to individual liberty.

A "be all, for all" state intervening in the Campbell's lives is evidence of just such.

Again, you ignore the multitudes of stupid who've, by and large, voluntarily disgraced individual liberty by shackling themselves to the socially destructive progressive welfare state...
to defend bequeathing the state more and more authority to intervene in the Campbell's...everyone's.... lives..

And again, disingenuous.

 

Obama isn`t taking us down the road of Nazi Germany....
You would literally have to be the most blindly partisan hateful hack on earth to actually eat that (*)(*)(*)(*) and believe it.

Also Where the (*)(*)(*)(*) did i say it only affected me?

 

lol, that's your defense? Nevermind that "satan" means different things and different languages, and is a mythical being.

 

Those parents shouldn't have children... period. Could you imagine someone telling you that they were going to name their child Johhny "ni44er beater" Johnson? Adrian "kill whitey" Smith

Only someone who has some SERIOUS mental issues would even suggest such a name...

 

I started another thread with this post but no one is responding so I will repost it here.

My first posts on this forum were in a thread about a lady who thought she was a man... who had apparently convinced her school-age little girl she was a little boy and was upset that the school wouldn't allow her to use the little boys bathroom.

My stance on this was that the child should have been taken away from the mother the FIRST time anyone became aware that the mother was having this effect on the child. The conservatives here agreed with me. The liberals did not.

Now there is a case of children being removed from a home because of nazi teachings and nazi names given to the children. My stance is still that the children should be taken away. This time the liberals agree with me and the conservatives do not.

So what's the difference people? Seriously.

Why is it OK with the liberals that transgender people teach little girls that they are little boys.. but it's not OK that white supremacists teach children to hate other races?

Why is it OK with conservatives that white supremacists give their children names that will cause the child great hardship in life and teach their children to be like them.. but it's not OK that transgender parents teach their children to be like them?

Am I seriously the only one here capable of looking at both of these situations and seeing some messed up parents that shouldn't be allowed indoctrinate children into their dysfunction?

Am I the only one here really capable of putting the best interests of the children before my own political agenda?

 

The liberals didn’t agree? That’s just ridiculous…

This one I might agree with because there is a racial undertone, but not “all” conservatives are racist…

I agree that both are “F’ed” up and shouldn’t be raising children. For the two political groups. They all have agenda’s. Thus, to basically brainwash someone to thinking the same way they do is okay.. That’s probably how they came to their own conclusion, on the back of someone brainwashing them to begin with as a child.

Everything is taught to a child, so when I hear a child on my soccer team say something like the N word – I look at their parents and know where it came from!!!

 

Sorry, but how did the medical professionals get to decide this? The hospital had no right to take that baby away from his parents. Medical staff are becoming a fringe wing of government. Medical professionals even here in America are nothing short of private spies for child services.

The hospital should be sued for taking upon itself, the right to take a baby away from its parents with absolutely no justification for it.

Now, I read the 1st 3 pages and I don't think anybody said anything concerning nthis issue.

If the name Adolf Hitler is "abusive" then what about all the terrible names that blacks use to spell and name their kids? What I just said is not racist, it's a fact. We had a girl at our school named (*)(*)(*)(*)onya, and it was pronounced just like its spelled. It won pass the vulgar test, so the word blocked out is another word for going #2.

 

While naming your kid "Adolf Hitler" might show a lack of judgement, it's no reason to kidnap a child. There are far worse parents out there.

This is obviously a political move motivated by political correctness.

I was going to bring this up. An obvious double standard.

 

They didn't name the child Alodopha Hitlarina.....

 

I don't really care what they named the child. The hospital has no right to dictate who gets their baby and who doesn't. That is (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up, I am sorry. Like I said, medical professionals have become private Gestapo for government services.

I agree, the names in that family are totally stupid and retarded, but that doesn't give a hospital the right to take kid's away from parents. At what point did the medical professional become a rogue arm of government?

It's almost like V or Equilibrium, everyone is watching what everyone else is doing and if it doesn't make Mother happy it gets reported and the government comes in to take ya away.

 

So you know these people?

 

So it is OK to kill your child in utero for any reason at all, just don't name them something Mak doesn't like if you don't kill them? Do I have that right?