Parents of elemenatary schoolchildren advised that a little boy is now a girl

Wrong again. As I have said factually people are turned on by anything. Some people get turned on by feet others by whips and chains. How we have learned what triggers our arousal is irrelevant because it is learned.

Its what the human body does in response to that trigger that cannot be controlled by the individual is the key point here and the body preparers for procreation which requires heterosexual sex.

 

what part are you not getting? What you have learned to what turns you on is irrelevant. Its what your body does in response to that trigger that makes all the difference.

LOL This is a complete fallacy and I challenge you to point to any scientific fact that shows a human body prepares for homosexual sex.

Back up that ridiculous claim of yours.

 

no he wasn't, or else it would have already been posted.

I will say, if it is a case of a child being born with both genitals, and they chose, or waited til they were older to choose and at a point (s)he was still both.... they get the choice. Because there is biology showing the issue. Feelings do no trump biology.


I'm red headed.... I may feel like a blonde, and even dye my hair blonde... but pesky genetics keep showing up and tells me I'm redheaded

not being coddled as a boy
allowed to play cowboys and indians and cops and robbers
allowed to get dirty
allowed to fall down
I didn't go on play dates
I was not dressed in skirts
I didn't play with barbie dolls
I wasn't brought to gay pride parades when I was a scout
I was raised by a male role model
I was given a high five by my father when I danced with a girl at the 1st grade dance
when I cried, I was told to knock it off
in first grade, when my best friend and I wondered what other tongues tasted like... and touched tongues, my dad bust my ass for it and made it clear it was not appropriate
I mowed lawns
I rode a bike without tassles

environment choice

 

Still not seeing the joke.

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Apples and oranges. Gender identity isn't sexual orientation.

 

No. People who are sterile have bodies that still require sex. If it can't be controlled by the individual, why do you have such a desire to control their needs?

 

Well, everyone else can see it. The alcoholic is usually the last to recognize his failings as well.

Nice dodge.

 

general things....

 

No one's body requires sex. It's only the hedonist Left who thinks differently.

 

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Sterile people are not sterile naturally and it doesn't change the fact their bodies still prepare for procreation.

 

General things? Clarify.
What if one's environment is completely opposite yours?

 

So you think that a penis was made to enter the 'backside of a woman?' Why? Because it CAN? >>>MOD EDIT Flamebait Removed<<<

 

I have lots and lots of clues about people.

Show me any scientific evidence of a genetically sterile human. Not a defect. Go ahead.

Of course it does when you want to put laws in place to protect that choice. And it is a choice whether it be conscious or unconscious it has nothing to do with natural and genetic conditions like race and gender. Its closer related to being Goth and we don't put laws protecting Goths specifically.

When a black man can hold a press conference and announce he is white and people are stupid enough to put laws in place to force others to accept his proclamation you can come back and pretend homosexuality is equal to race and gender.

 

Sorry, I should've clarified. Correct clues, not fantasy or from ignorance.

I am not a doctor, but I know a few people that can not have children, ever. And want them and tried. But one or the other or in rare cases, both are sterile.

What laws are you talking about? Protecting goth? I have not seen or heard of any being passed or trying to pass to protect it/them.

When a black man can hold a press conference and announce he is white and people are stupid enough to put laws in place to force others to accept his proclamation you can come back and pretend homosexuality is equal to race and gender.

 

You mean like making up a condition that doesn't exist in genetics?

But WHY are they sterile? You can be sterile from radiation, chemotherapy, etc. We are talking about your BS claim of people being genetically natural sterile.

Sigh. I'm saying being homosexual has more in common with being Goth than it does with natural and genetic conditions like race and gender.

 

While that may be, a homosexual relationship does not offer the possibility of procreation for both parties with each other and so, is not equal to a heterosexual relationship.

 

That is your personal judgement. The law cannot make such a distinction. As has now been made clear by 13 Judges.

 

Really, why not explain it to me then?

How is it a dodge if I'm saying your analogy is wrong on the most basic level?

 

heres a couple of quotes by you, in regards to a little BOY named Adam. It explains everything clearly.

Ridiculous in the face of the known Male gender of this child. More nonsense here:

Ridiculous statements. Based in nothing but make believe. Feelings don't change physical makeup. You are just stating outright non truths. he was born a boy and named Adam. All the feelings in the world aren't going to make that change physically.

You dodged answering the "mental capacity" question I raised. If you think they are of sound mind enough to call them an entirely different gender than what they demonstrably are, then you cannot claim they aren't capable to make decisions about loving a 50 year old man. if theyre developed enough to change their physical makeup with feelings alone....certainly they could speak for themselves there too.

But it doesn't look good to say that you'd support them having sex with 50 year old men, so you tried to duck away from answering.

 

We're talking about a girl named Jasmine.

The feeling that you're in the wrong body, the feeling that you can't love yourself, the feeling that no matter what you do, it won't be any good are real feelings that transgenders feel. Feelings affect the body, just as the body affects feelings. If a person is depressed, the body responds to it and is affected by it just as much. If the body is hurt, there is fear that even more pain can happen and you have to get to safety. To say otherwise is ignoring basic psychology. And it may not change him or her physically when puberty hits, but there are options out there.

I didn't dodge anything. It's the truth, you're comparing apples to oranges. Using your logic, if a 5 year old can't explain to me the complex ideas behind biology, they're stupid. Anyone can do that. The brain develops at its own pace. I'm not a psychologist, but think about it. From the moment you step out of the hospital as a baby, you're bombarded with the ideas of what it means to be a boy and a girl. Love is something that you don't really feel until puberty. Sure you can "like" a girl, but that doesn't mean your preferences have solidified yet. But the idea of what role you want to play in society isn't that hard to figure out.

But it doesn't look good to say that you'd support them having sex with 50 year old men, so you tried to duck away from answering.[/QUOTE]

 

Who cares? Genes may or may not have a thing to do with sexual orientation. Is there a hetero gene? No. I am sure this will be lost on you.
Is there any evidence for "straight genes," other than the rather indirect evidence of the large number of people who identify as straight? Researchers have looked at sexual orientation among monozygotic twins -- that is, twins who are genetically identical -- versus dizygotic twins. Monozygotic twins are more likely than dizygotic to have the same sexual orientation (to both be straight or both be gay), but even they are not always matched. Bailey concludes that the data are "consistent with some genetic influence" for sexual orientation but that the data are "not overwhelming." He goes so far as to say "the evidence from twin studies for innateness of sexual orientation is pretty weak
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/03/are-straight-people-born-that-way/254592/

Go ask a doctor. They were sterile before they were 20. Perhaps earlier.

Double sigh and a slap on the forehead. Who cares?
You didn't say what laws are protecting this group of people. Those special laws.

 

No, we are not. HE was born a boy, and named Adam. Everything after that is make believe. You dont just get to say "Despite my having been born a Male, I'm now a girl". Pure nonsense.You can choose to play along of course, as you are, but the facts dont back up that nonsense. If HE decides he wants to be a Crocodile tomorrow, I'm not going to play along. People like you can toss steaks to him, and clean his pond.

Feelings do not change the physical makeup. End of story.

You dodged it, and you dodged it again. Mental Capacity is Apples to Apples. Society has always restricted what kids can do based on Mental Capacity, thats why minors need parents signatures, they cannot buy alcohol, they cannot smoke, and we prosecute adults who have sex with them. Supposedly they arent developed enough yet to make those kinds of decisions.

But you want to pretend that they have the capacity to make decisions that go against their demonstrable, factual gender. Sorry, some of us aren't going to play make believe, and we arent going to humor it.

If this kid tomorrow came out and said HE was in love with a 50 year old man, would you support that? Afterall...you are willing to write HIM a feelings based blank check. How would you say it's within HIS realm to "feel" like a gender HE is not...yet discount his feelings on who HE loves?

 

Even then, you're making it sound like the whole LGBT movement wants to achieve that and that's just outlandish.

 

slippery slope.

 

Because this is about what you base law on and force others to accept as unchanging. That's why.

Please try and read carefully. The very biological act of the human body when sexually stimulated proves heterosexuality is genetic. The very fact you can't answer this point makes mine. Your link is hysterical because they refuse to deal with that very biological act of the human body because they know it wreaks their case. They focus on pre pubescent children which is ridiculous since they haven't gone through puberty nor do they explain if homosexuality is something humans are born with why do their bodies also prepare for procreation when sexually stimulated or produce genetic material for that matter

So you have no evidence that they were genetically sterile. Got it.

Are you kidding? How about the discrimination laws that pretend homosexuality is equiviant to race? How about gay marriage itself? Why would we force others to accept someone's choice and pretend its equal to genetic factors like race and gender?

That's why it matters Dairy.