Part 10 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

Nukes, flood, plagues, what's the difference. Thou outcomest is thou samest.

 

My favorite STUPIDITY is when anyone asks a Christian..."Why is it if there is a loving GOD that such a GOD allows such suffering, death and torture of the innocent including children?

And their standard answer of idiocy is....."Because it is all a part of GODS PLAN!"

Well if that is GODS PLAN....we need a new GOD!!!

Let's FIRE HIS ASS!!!

AboveAlpha

 

Oh so if someone were to mutilate and unmercifully beat to death a very close loved one of yours, it's all the same to you, since we are all going to die someday, there is no difference on the manner in which we die, the outcome is the same as if your loved one had died a peaceful natural death in their sleep or any other way for that matter.

You're not going to seek or want justice or care one bit into having the authorities investigate and find out who was the psychotic maniacal mutilating murderer responsible for your loved one's death...right?

Because in your mind there's no difference. Thou outcomest is thou samest.

I'll tell ya if everyone had your attitude the human race would have annihilated itself a long long time ago!

 

God allows all this suffering and miseries because He has given everyone of us free will. He does not interfere with a person's free will, which is the ability to do what is right or what is wrong.

If He interfered with our free will then we'd all be His programmed puppets doing His will. How could God love puppets who are not free agents.

So we are His free will agents. We can choose to do what is evil or righteous, we can choose to believe in God and love Him or not believe in God and thus not love Him.

The choice is ours to make and that's why there is all this suffering in the world, which is really being in disobedience of living the righteous way in the way that God wants us to live, and so the blame falls on us, the human race.

I'd say let's keep the Boss!, He's keeping with His divine plan and not making us His programmed puppets.

So someday, when a person finds his/herself in heaven or hell, they will know it was their choice to be there.

 

What the hell kind of stupid post was this? What does this have to do with nukes, plagues, or the great flood?
Oh, the human race was annihilated a while ago according to the bible. And man did not cause it to rain.

 

Not at all true. You may believe you're doing right but you may have done something that won't allow you to be in heaven.
You may not even be following the correct religion. You only think you are.

 

I don't see the word omniscient in any of those quotes. Thanks for proving me right.

You see not only do atheists assign words that aren't used they also infer the meaning of those words and play semantic games. You fail.

 

So you believe that God is omnipotent, but not that he is omniscient? That's interesting...

I suppose you believe that someone without knowledge is just as powerful as someone with knowledge?

Not building a straw man at all... Not sure where that paranoia stems from...

So are you saying that there is a Hell, but that nobody has ever been sent there?

The point is that you appear to be desperately dodging making any statements about what you actually believe, because you're unable to support your beliefs with any rational points.

For example, you seem to be claiming that God can change his mind about what is sinful (post #317 challenged my assertion that this doesn't make sense).

 

It wasn't an atheist link.
And see my last sentence, I already predicted you'd be blind to what christians believe.
So, you may want to rethink who failed.

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From the few posts he has posted here. I don't think he knows what he believes. It is a moving target. And a belief held by his lonesome.

 

Well for one it's Christianity of course! Tell me do you see Christians acting out in an uncivilized manner in today's world?

Do you see them forcedly oppressing people? Do you see them imposing their beliefs on others forcedly?

Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ most certainly didn't give us commands to behave in an uncivilized manner.

He was the Prince of Peace! All He wanted us to do was to spread "The Good News" and not by means of uncivility.

 

There is no such thing as being covered for sinning in God's name. God does not give anyone the "go ahead and sin in my name license" Sin is a transgression against God.

Again, it is the fault of men, it is not God's fault. God has given us the gift of free will. How men choose to use their gift of free will is up to them, God will not interfere with their choice, whether it be right/wrong choices.

Needless to say He prefers we all make the right choices but sadly we make those wrong choices as well, knowing full well when we make them they are indeed wrong!

No, I'm not pretending....read my lips!..."It is all man's own fault"

 

The Canaan people were evil people and because of their sins & disobedience our righteous God of the Old Testament allowed the killings (punishments) of the Canaanites and the Amalekites. God had morally sufficient reasons for ordering the destruction of these nations and so you can't call it murder. The Canaanite culture reveals its inherent moral wickedness, they were a brutal, aggressive people who engaged in bestiality, incest, and even child sacrifice. Deviant sexual acts were the norm.

God was very patient with these people before He displayed His wrath on them, He gave these people 400 yrs. to repent but did they?...no, they didn't and so came God's wrath on them.

The Canaanites' sin were so repellent that God said, "Because the entire land has become defiled, I am punishing the people who live there. I will cause the land to vomit them out." ---Leviticus 18:25 NLT

No, you are confused, it was ok to punish these people for their sins and so it was not murder but shall we say, it was justified capital punishments.

And no where do I read in the Bible that God allowed the Israelites to rape women. What bible are you reading?...oh never mind, I get it, you are just making stuff up...such dishonesty!

The Israelites were obeying the divine commands of Almighty God and I as so eloquently explained the reasons above they were morally justified in carrying out those punishments.

 

Yes.

Yes. Go look at what just happened in Uganda.

Did you miss that part where he goes into the temple and drives people out with a whip?

No, he just meant to spread his word by parables which even his own Disciples didn't understand.

 

Are you angry that you can't play the semantic games? Yes, it looks that way.

First you claim God is this all powerful being and then claim that he can't change his mind? Maybe you should make up your mind. Is God as powerful as you say or not?

 

If GOD is anything GOD is a COLD BEER at the end of a hard day.

GOD is having to watch someone you went to school with holding a sign protesting in front of some Mom and Pop small business because they sell CONDOMS and then finding out a few months later this friend accidentally knocked up a 500 lbs woman at a religious retreat and because of his religious ideology he marries her and she has the kid....then 4 more kids only to leave him with all these kids...steal all the money from their joint account and take off across the country with a Biker! LOL!!!

Now THAT is GOD!!!

AboveAlpha

 

So you predicted I would see thru your BS....congrats but the rest of your post is a big time fail.

 

Did that happen to you or are you the kid? The fat lady?

 

that's an awesome story, AA.

a perefect example of the old xian caveat - be careful what you wish for.

 

First of all, as much as you TRY to aggravate others, I haven't gotten angry or played word games...

Secondly, I don't believe a "God" exists at all.

Third, if you believe there is a God, and that "God" is omnipotent, then you either believe God is omniscient or believe that lacking knowledge does not limit power.

 

Resorting to flame bait and ad hominem fallacies does not make your position seem intelligent or viable, in addition to being a violation of the TOS.

 

BS?
Do you understand anything about christianity?
One who has to keep touting failures of others need not look no further than the mirror. Wisdom may someday be yours.

 

I'm guessing the poster is still in jr high and only repeats what he/she hears at home. No other logical explanation.

 

That is just one isolated case in a huge wide world. Furthermore it is more driven by the Islamist. If any Christians are involved then they are rogue Christians and not true Christians.

In any large group you are bound to have a few rotten apples. With that said as a whole the majority of Christians do not oppress people nor do they impose their beliefs on others forcedly.

No, I didn't miss that part because it didn't happen. Jesus used the whip to drive out the sheep and the cattle.

This is what our Lord Savior Jesus Christ said to His disciples before He ascended to heaven,

And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”---Matthew 28:18-20 ESV

Nothing was said to spread His word by parables, furthermore if His disciples didn't understand His parables how could they spread His word using them?

 

LOL! You can try and deny you are angry but it comes thru in your posts.

You can choose to not believe in God. That is no skin off my nose. I choose the look at the evidence and go where it leads instead of interpreting the facts to fit what I want to believe.

You can continue to try and play word games all you want but I don't buy it. Show where the bible says God is omnipotent or just be quiet.

 

I wasn't aware that asking questions was such as you describe. But you did tell a detailed story to be anecdotal. Is it real or not?