Part 28 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

I find it just the opposite. Those who oppose Christianity are the one's
embarking on futile attempts to discredit Christianity, which they haven't done
by any stretch of the imagination. Perhaps that's why the keep returning to
the non-Christian Old Testament.

 

Only in your imagination it seems.

It's been clearly discredited... but willful denial still works wonders in those who choose to employ it!

 

all we have to do is say it out loud, and it discredits itself.

your sunday school teachers told you it was all about a nice, lamb-hugging blue eyed man named jesus, for a reason. and they told you bible stories in a sing-song, matter-of-fact voice, as though drowning every living thing on the planet is totally reasonable, for a reason. it was so you would grow up completely oblivious to the true horrors of your religion.

 

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No it hasn't. Only in your imagination. Nobody, and especially on this forum,
has discredited Christianity. Nobody.

Please, try and discredit Christianity.

 

You of all people should know that Christianity hasn't been discredited. In fact
you've been shown to wrong on every occasion I've been involved with. You
haven't even been almost right.

Please try to discredit Christianity. Oh, try to do it in a civil manner and not your
usual mean spirited way.

 

It's impossible for this instruction to be approved of by any loving or all knowing god...no matter the mental gymnastics employed to defend it!

 

This doesn't sound much like a loving all powerful god to me... in fact it is the commandment one would expect from a psychopath!

 

Any one who can't see this is mythology is blatantly ignoring reality.

Or maybe the trees were Palm trees and this actually happened!

Shall I continue?

 

Are you saying you believe in Truth but he doesn't have it??
Or,... are you saying you don't believe Truth exists.

 

Right.
True.
Exactly.

The Old Testament is what Islam practices, though they wrote the Koran which was based on Judaism, except it also said Jesus was a prophet and a great guy.
But they left out the stuff about Christ was Truth, personified and idealized in 32AD.

Muslims ignore Christ's teachings, deny Jesus was crucified, deny Jesus arose from the dead, deny the Eucharist, deny "love thy enemy," etc.
The world is now watching as Islam attempts to kill 5.5 Billion people if they don't become muslims and stop the sexual promiscuity the Jews were also against.

Islam needs recognize that killing won't work, and only Truth about sexual promiscuity and the harm it does to the fatherless kids will stop this permissiveness.

 

Perhaps this is why you come up with the most ridiculous interpretations for the bible than anyone else... You can't comprehend what you read...

Try it again Dave and go slow ...unlike the bible and it's writers I actually say what I mean and mean what I say!

 

YES, YES, YES,...
Continue.
Tell us how to stop the Child Abuse to fatherless bastard kids the sexual promiscuity creates, which then turns them, as grown people, into crime so bad we can not walk in our own cities at night.

 

Make them sit and listen to you!

 

you're a special unit, PP. quite pompous, and very satisfied with yourself. I don't hold that against you, but I do take issue with your rather bizarre refutations of all that you find awkward and embarrassing about your religion. you have a tendency to stridently declare something 'ever just so', and moving on - as though that were enough.

you've done it again here. you announce that christianity can never be discredited, as though saying it makes it so. but not even you can justify the murder, bloodshed, child killing, burning, stoning, and genocide. and I didn't even touch on jesus' very special place of eternal torture for anyone foolish enough to fail to worship your him.

 

Funny. It is nice your life has meaning to you for your existence.

Many people's life have meaning for their existence and aren't relying on some made up interpretations from words written 2000 yrs ago.

 

why can't you walk in your cities at night?

 

OK.
Then break it down for us about the fatherless kids which number half of all kids in America now.

Here is what these kids suffer from this:

CHILDREN NEED BOTH PARENTS
63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes. (Source: U.S. D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census).
90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes.
85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes. (Source:\hich\af39\dbch\af31505\loch\f39 Center for Disease Control).
80% of rapist motivated by displaced anger come from fatherless homes. (Source: Criminal Justice and Behavior, Vol. 14, pp. 403-26).
71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. (Source: National Principals A Report on the State of High Schools).
85% of all youths sitting in prisons grew up in a fatherless home. (Source: Fulton County Georgia jail populations, Texas Dept. Of Corrections, 1992).

These statistics translate to mean that children from fatherless homes are:
5 times more likely to commit suicide
32 times more likely to run away
20 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
14 times more likely to commit rape
9 times more likely to drop out of high school
20 times more likely to end up in prison

Children from "fatherless families of single mother" homes are*:
15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
4.6 times more likely to commit suicide
6.6 times more likely to become teenaged mothers
24.3 times more likely to run away
15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
6.3 times more likely to be in a state-operated institutions
10.8 times more likely to commit rape
6.6 times more likely to drop out of school
15.3 times more likely to end up in prison while a teenage
73% of adolescent murderers come from mother only homes

Daughters who live in mother only homes are 92% more likely to divorce**

 

When one is wondering the why for's and how come's of something, it is best to start at the beginning to see how it all started rather than at the end.
The OT is how christianity started. If the start could be flawed, well, doesn't say much for what follows.

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Without the OT, there is no christianity.

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Crusades.

 

You are persistent I'll give you that!

But in all honesty the most ludicrous interpretations of the bible on the forum.

 

Violent crime abides the inner cities even in towns today, which are packed with Welfare supported single mothers raising fatherless kids.

 

Other than what some of jesus' supposed words were on how to treat people. What credibility does chrisitanity have?
Very few follow the words written.

 

All three religions are uniform in opposition to sexual promiscuity, and Gay out-of-the-box behaviors that encourage the looseness that ends with bastards inside the cities full of violence and crime.
Were it not for the 1.2 million annual abortions, the crime would be twice what it is today.

 

different. here the rich and elite live in inner cities, and the criminals live in the suburbs. the cities are really expensive to live in.

 

During the time of Moses the Israelites lived under strict rules, these rules were only for Israelites & foreigners living in Israel at the time. In the Book of Deuteronomy we see there were "Regulations for Sexual Purity" and so yes, anyone who was disobedient of the law were severely punished.

But in the case of a young woman caught having premarital sex, she was not put to death and so your statement is wrong. Let me bring up a passage in Scripture to show what happens in a case with a young woman:

"Suppose a man has intercourse with a young woman who is a virgin but is not engaged to be married. If they are discovered, he must pay her father fifty pieces of silver. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he may never divorce her as long as he lives."---Deut. 22:28-29 NLT

But again those strict laws were during the time of Moses and those laws do not apply to Christians or anyone else for that matter. And so today those strict laws are not applicable. If you want to know why those laws are not applicable, then ask me a follow up question and I will be glad to explain why. But basically I can tell you that the Old Covenant with its harsh judicial judgments is no longer in effect because we are under a New Covenant because of our Lord Savior Jesus Christ.

So please don't stone your teenage daughter to death if you discover that she is having premarital sex with the boy across the street...lol

Not only is it a sinful act but the authorities will arrest you for murder.

Again this harsh type of punishment were only applicable during the time of Moses. And so it doesn't apply today. So don't go killing your spoiled, rotten unruly son/sons.

Let me bring up the passage in Scripture that deals with an unruly son:

"Suppose a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey his father or mother, even though they discipline him. In such a case, the father and mother must take the son to the elders as they hold court at the town gate. The parents must say to the elders, ‘This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious and refuses to obey. He is a glutton and a drunkard.’ Then all the men of his town must stone him to death. In this way, you will purge this evil from among you, and all Israel will hear about it and be afraid."---Deut. 21:18-21 NLT

No, He doesn't have human traits that are sinful in nature. But regarding this jealousy that is spoken about in the Bible it's just not the same kind of jealousy as we humans experience. Let me explain.

When the term jealousy is applied to God in Scripture it is usually because His people are worshiping idols. In the second of His ten commandments He warned them not to do that, but they failed to listen to Him.

The Israelites existed in a world and among people who believed in the worship of many gods. The Canaanites were one such people. Their religions personified the forces of nature into deities. The Canaanites could add Yahweh, the warrior God of the Israelites, to their worship as another of the nature Gods. But the God of the Israelites was not just another god, He was THE God. The Israelites recognized Him as the only Sovereign Creator God. The metaphor used to make this claim was the metaphor of God as a jealous God. He would not simply be added to the other nature deities, because he had created the aspects of nature that the Canaanites worshipped!

Jealousy involves the desire to have what somebody else has. God wants what is His: the exclusive devotion of His people. It is only right and good that He should. But for us, jealousy may degenerate into something bad, as when we feel frustrated and bitter because we cannot obtain what we want, or when we find fault with those who have what we want or who keep us from getting it. God is not capable of experiencing that sinful jealousy. The point is, jealousy can be either good or bad. God's jealousy is righteous jealousy.

You got half of it right. What God created was good, but He didn't create the evil that exists in the world. I know you might bring up that verse in Isaiah 45:7 but it can be explained very thoroughly to illustrate that verse has been misinterpreted by the critics.

You must be referring to the Great Flood of Noah. It took Noah a hundred years to build this huge, gigantic, homemade boat and so it's not inconceivable that it could accommodate the animals.

That special place is heaven where great joy and bliss will reign forever in God's Kingdom of Heavenly paradise for all the people who freely believe in Him and yes, who love Him dearly and will continue to love Him dearly & worship Him for all eternity.

But that other place is a place for those who don't believe in Him, who don't love Him and who choose to be there. Since they will not accept the free gift of salvation, the sin debt payment our Lord Savior Jesus Christ made for them, then they will have to pay the penalty for their sins and be punished and separated from the Creator, Almighty God for all eternity!

And so the choice is yours to make, for all individuals, as to where you want to spend your eternity at.

Looks like you're wrong again...what else is new...eh?...lol

 

Facts SUPPORT what Jesus said about sexual misconduct, as we can see from the Stats available over this net:

Look at the murders in the cities like Philadelphia, PA, which have gone from 72, in 1934, to @400 annually today