Part 34 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    Scientist are now echoing Noah's warning back then it was repent for a great flood is coming now it is save the environment or a great flood will destroy this planet.
    Humans are perfect in every way the human body is well created every cell, every DNA function accordingly. The entire universe is created perfect and self sustaining.
    Scientist are divided into three groups 1. Atheist 2. Agnostics and 3. Christians. All these three groups of scientist believe that humans were created for Christian scientist it was created by God for agnostics they are not sure and for atheist humans were created from apes and apes were created by a higher being.
     
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    You are just bleating out unrelated commentary like some kind of robot "does not compute, does not compute"

    None of what you said has any relation to the fact that Scientists in general do not claim that the God of Abraham did a prefect job creating humans.
     
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    A robot indeed is like what atheist has been acting like they refused to accept the factual historicity of Jesus Christ with this one way comment "does not compute, does not compute".....
    Scientist around the world are absolutely in one agreement that this universe is created perfect their excitement is clearly demonstrated and evident whenever new discoveries are discovered the latest being the discovery of the God-particle.
     
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    None of what you said has any relation to the fact that Scientists in general do not claim that the God of Abraham did a prefect job creating humans.

    This is just another one of your made up claims that is so nonsensical it is painful.
     
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    Scientist have confirm the existence of God, the wondrous power of God and the perfect creation of the universe without the Bible we will not have the science that we have now the science of discoveries the science as Einstein put it is:to know how God created this world. I'm not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details.

    Einstein ; “I’m not an atheist and I don’t think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangements of the books, but doesn’t know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God.”
     
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    No they haven't Scientists have not proven anything about God.

    Science existed long before the Bible came into existence. Once again you have no clue.



    No being an atheist does not mean that Scientists have proven God exists.
     
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    Scientist continue to research and for every new discoveries they get closer to God. From Galileo, Newton, Einstein, Fr. Georges Henri Joseph Édouard Lemaître formulated the Big Bang Theory, Robert Grosseteste founder of scientific thought, Albertus Magnus, Francis Bacon, Robert Boyle, Sir Robert Boyd, Charles H. Townes, and many many more the latest discovery of the God-particle by Higgs Boson bring many scientist closer and excited about the origin of the universe, life and the perfectness of creation.

    before modern science it was all about wizardry, sorcery, witchcraft that some how the position of the starts represent gods and goddesses the fate of humanity depends on the stars and planets but as we know it now those stars and planets are not gods or goddesses and the position of those planets, comets and stars has nothing to do with love life but is about the universe. The discoveries of modern medicines and practices replaces voodooism the cure and the production of modern medicines are due to Christians acceptance of the Bible to live a none primitive and superstitious life style.


    Being an atheist is intentionally ignoring the reality of the existence of God.
     
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    Your questions are that of a child. Why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why? It is proof you are that of God's child. Like a child to his parent's the question "why", never stops. It is proof of an intellect that is far below that of God's. Why did God create humans, you ask? What you should say is, thanks. God said with everything that he has made, we are without excuse. This is abundantly clear, when looking into the heavens. Everything that we can see and as far as the eye can see into the heavens (space), there is absolutely zero life. (side note) And even if they find cells, that is still not life. Just ask the scientists, doctors, world leaders, and anybody that opposes pro life or God. And when looking here on earth, we see beasts of the wild, birds of the sky, insects all in which are merely after survival, and none of which that have the ability or capacity to destroy themselves. They could be considered as "not having a heart". They lack the ability to dominate the earth, their brains are nowhere even close to ours. We can clone them, this is absolute dominance. This is God to us. Yet for some reason you seem to believe, we are just a meaningless spec in the cosmos.

    Man creates suffering, therefore man can abolish suffering. Of course we would have to come together. What have you done to help reduce the suffering? And why do you even worry about the suffering, if there is no God. I can assure you, abandoning God will get you nowhere. And when you are judged, He will ask you, "What have you done for my people"?
     
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    You have no idea whatever. Science and medicine were available even before Jesus the Jewish preacher was born. We have improved on much of this by modern knowledge and techniques. Why don't you just go and study instead of posting a lot of gobbledegook.
     
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    Do you ever tire of creating unbelievable excuses and awkward ties to justify your beliefs?
    Have you EVER bothered to research the topics you dismiss with honesty and an open mind?

    I'm guessing not on both counts...and it is a pity.
     
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    Quit your nonsensical rambling.

    Scientists in general do not claim that the God of Abraham did a perfect Job of Creating humans.

    nor have scientists proven that God exists or that God has any attributes.

    Stop the madness.
     
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    I know just how much you want very much for us Christians to go away and let atheist take over the world but we can't go away it is because truth matters.
     
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    The only madness is denying the truth that is why scientist do not deny the perfection of the creation of the universe that a supreme being is behind this creation called God.
    This is why we have atheist their role is to proof the existence of God.
     
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    Prove that Scientists in general claim that the God of Abraham did a perfect Job of Creating humans.

    Prove that Science now claims to have proven the existence of God.

    You making up fantasy is not proof of much.
     
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    I don't want Christians to go away. I have friends who are Christians and I have no problem with them. I have no problem with you, just the gobbledegook you keep posting.
     
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    Science and scientific discoveries is no fantasy, intentionally ignoring the facts that God exist is delusional it is called Atheism.
     
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    I am just correcting all your gobbledegook such as your insistent that God is not real or that Jesus the preacher is not the Christ in spite of historical facts you still continue with your gobbledegook.
     
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    There are no Historical facts that Jesus was the Christ. ''

    A definition of a fact ' a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true:;.

    Have you experienced or seen a resurrection? All you have is what someone else says.
     
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    Any scientist would laugh you out of town.
     
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    There is sufficient historical facts that Jesus was The Christ only his enemies deny this historicity as I said the very reason why Jesus the prophet was put to death by the Pharisees was because he refused he was not God this is one historical fact that you continue to deny even though you do agree that Jesus was crucified the other was Jesus resurrection that totally change the lives of the Apostles the fact that you accepted the historicity that the resurrection was a made up story that Jesus followers took his body and hide it not with standing the fact that if this is the case you have no answer as to why? And why the Apostles were all willing to give up everything if the resurrection was false? Historical facts supporting the Resurrection is undeniable there is no reason for Jesus followers to worship him if the resurrection is not real.

    The Apostles and Mary witnessed the resurrection we all of us did not but we accept the eye witness accounts and the events that would transpired thereafter that the Resurrection is real just like we have not seen the God-particle or Higgs-bosson particle but we know it is real based on scientist revelation, Christ resurrection was based on the Apostles revelation.
     
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    The scholarly consensus on the historicity of Exodus

    Although it is overwhelmingly agreed that there is clear evidence the Hebrews were already well established and known in Canaan by the mid-13

    th

    century BCE, many archaeologists believe they emerged from within the existing Canaanite population, rather than emigrating from Egypt. Modern archaeologists and Bible scholars typically express skepticism of the Exodus, claiming there is insufficient evidence to establish its historicity. Such comments are usually cited as the scholarly consensus. ‘Putting aside the possibility of divinely inspired miracles,

    one can hardly accept the

    idea of a flight of a large group of slaves from Egypt through the heavily guarded border f ortifications into the desert and then into Canaan in the time of such a formidable Egyptian presence.’

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    There is simply no such evidence

    at the supposed time of the Exodus in the thirteenth century BCE.’

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    Nothing in the archaeological record of Egypt

    directly substantiates the Biblical story of the Exodus.’

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    But it is most unlikely

    that a group of some three million people—or even 80,000, which is Manetho’s figure—left Egypt down the Wadi Tumilat in the reign of Ramesses or Merneptah

    . It is completely unthinkable that any group of any relat ed size

    went rattling around in the Sinai Peninsula or the Negev for any length of time thereafter.’

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    Accounting for the absence of evidence

    It is a fact that there is no direct archaeological evidence for the Exoxus. This is acknowledged even by professional archaeologists who believe the Exodus happened, such as James Hoffmeier. ‘Despite over a century of archaeological excavations in Egypt,

    proof of the dramatic Exodus has not been found

    .’

    continued

    http://www.academia.edu/7951233/The_Historicity_of_the_Exodus_1_
     
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    Every scientist that made great discoveries and successful exploration from the ability to explore the moon, space travel, landing probe to Mars, discovery of the God-particle, discovery of new stars and planets etc. were fill with excitement and enlightenment because they get to learn more about God not about no God none of them were laughing but were very happy with their discoveries.
     
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    There is NO GOD PARTICLE. That was just a newspaper makeup. It's the Higgs Boson particle and we have scientific evidence for it. Not for the resurrection.
     
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    It is only the literalist religious funadmentalists that do not believe in science or scientific discovery.

    What is fantasy is your claim that Scientists in general claim that the God of Abraham did a perfect job creating humans and your claim that Science has proven the existence of God.

    Where is your proof for these claims ?
     
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    The newspaper make up is based on the actual discovery of the Higgs bosson that is also known as the God-particle. Mr. Higgs is not the creator of the particle he is also not the only one that discover it. The scientific evidence of the resurrection is Jesus Christ.
     
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