Part 34 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

It's a good article which just shows the Churches teaching is based on both unjust and unthought out doctrines. Or perhaps god didn't think things out. Most of us who have studied with open minds have known this for years. The Bible is full of holes, as you know.

 

Leading historians, state leaders, church leaders, scholars, and scientist all accept, recognize and confirm the evidences and proof of Jesus Christ historicity in Bethlehem, Nazareth and Jerusalem. Probably you were in the wrong place.

 

We all know that Zeus is fiction a myth and we have evidence and proof of that just like we have historical and factual evidences and proof of Jesus Christ confirm, recognize and accepted by leading scholars, scientist, church leaders and state leaders.

The difference between atheist and none atheist is that we know how to distinguish between fiction and facts, Zeus is fiction Jesus Christ is fact.

 

Christianity stem from the Old Testament while Judaism stem from the Pharisees.
Dig deeper it is very clear that Judaism was created by the Jewish leadership based on their man made belief not God's.
Christianity is base on the proven God through Jesus Christ.

 

That's just a load of rubbish. You've no idea

 

It sure is............

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Where on earth are you from?

 

You believe in Jesus of Nazareth or Jesus the preacher existed and real, you also believe that that same Jesus was crucified by the Pharisees for blasphemy. There is no doubt Jesus of Nazareth or Jesus the Jewish preacher is real and existed and that same Jesus the preacher is for his followers he is The Christ therefore there is the proof that Jesus Christ is real.

It is also a fact that Christianity came about after Christ resurrection and because the Roman and Jewish authorities could not disprove that there was no resurrection due to the fact that they could not locate Jesus body. Without the resurrection there will be no Christianity. The religious and political leaders of Jews created Judaism the historicity of that is very clear and Jesus the preacher or The Christ call them out on that. Jesus reprimanded them for not living up to God's commandments and because the Pharisees rejected God this mean Judaism has become a man made religion not from God.

It is all delusional and rubbish for atheist to keep insisting Jesus Christ is not real. That is why all leading scholars, historians, state leaders, church leaders and scientist confirm that Jesus Christ is real that Jesus of Nazareth is the same Jesus called Jesus Christ.

 

I can understand or we understand that there will always be hardcore individuals that can not accept historical facts that is just part of reality. At the same time you can not change history by attempting to distort facts and the fact is Judaism rejected God and that rejection has resulted in Judaism becoming a man made religion or atheist created religion not from God.

All atheist books contents are about God, about theories and what "if's" it lack solid factual proof lots of historical self adjustment of facts to suite their claims that is why atheist books have not been recognize and confirm by state leaders, leading scientist or by the church. State leaders still pledge their service to the nation on the Holy Bible not on atheist books.

 

Perfect ? Far from it. If God were perfect he would have done a better job of creating humans.

 

There is no physical evidence of Jesus.

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Then present this evidence.

 

Margot has been to the Holy Land. You just don't know what you're talking about. Just because people build places doesn't prove anything except they want tourism. It's almost certain Jesus was not born in Bethlehem - probably Nazareth. There was no great celebrations - except among the family.
Most people have never even considered the implications of everyone returning to his place of birth for the census. It never happened. The whole of the Middle east would have been gridlocked. Chaos everywhere

 

Humans are God's perfect creation that is why we have atheist, agnostics and none atheist.

 

Atheist have no physical evidence to disprove the existence of Jesus Christ.
The evidence of Jesus Christ has already been provided they can be found in the Holy Land it has been confirm by all leading archaeologist, historians, State leaders, Church leaders and scientist.

 

There is no evidence of Jesus in the Holy Land.. Its strictly a matter of faith.

 

Many people have been to the Holy Land and have witness the evidences of Christ. You believe and accept Jesus existed that he is Jesus the preacher, Muslims recognize Jesus existence as a prophet, Judaism recognize Jesus as the blasphemer all of those Jesus is one and the same Jesus that Christians worship they recognize him as Jesus Christ.

The evidence of The Christ is there no doubt what is being debated is Christ resurrection for Christians without the resurrection there will be no Christianity. The resurrection did happened and it proof Jesus of Nazareth or the preacher or the blasphemer is The Christ. The missing body of Christ is evidence, the Apostles sudden conversation and change to become holy individuals unafraid of death and they gave up all their earthly comfort and family all for God the real God. The Romans who controls Judea, Egypt, Greece etc. with all their might and intelligence in alliance with Jewish leaders could not find Jesus Christ body is another evidence of Jesus Christ.

Atheist today just have no evidence to proof Jesus Christ never existed they only have evidences that Jesus of Nazareth and Jesus the preacher existed that all historians recognize is the one and the same Jesus that is Christ.

It really be nice if atheist can really provide solid proof that Jesus did not existed and that all were just a creation by the Romans and Jews. Even if it was a creation by Romans and Jews the question is for what?

 

Faith occur after the reality the historical events of the life and ministry of Jesus Christ the people he touch the events that will lead to the rise of modern Europe these are not delusional.

If you can only provide proof not just personal words and opinion that there is no evidence of Jesus in the Holy Land.

 

Is this the same as saying that because they can not find any physical evidence of Genghis Khan it mean he did not exist and is not real?

 

That is the most absurd and easily proven lie on here. Many Historians do not believe Jesus actually existed, and most of those who accept a Jewish teacher names Jesus existed, do not believe he was the Christ.
And there is no proof of the Biblical resurrection, only faith and words.
There are several explanations for the disappearance of the body. Most likely is the removal of the body from the tomb very early after the Sabbath and it's transportation to a family tomb away in Nazareth. This would have to be done early as the heat of the day would cause the body to decay more quickly. Guards? Only Matthew records these, and to do so he has to break Jewish Sabbath law. I prefer John's account where Mary says to him and Peter 'They have taken my Lord out of the sepulchre, and we know not where they have laid him'. Why would Pilate care? It was now the Jews problem. He says as much when he tells them to use their guards. He doesn't send Roman soldiers.

 

To say many historian do not accept Jesus actually existed and then follow up with those who accept Jesus existed was that Jesus was not the Christ is contradictory. Because, the issue is Jesus the Christ? The Christ and Jesus the preacher is one and the same the person so we know that Jesus did existed and is real. The historical events that would happened after his resurrection would change the course of history especially Jewish and Roman history.

The Bible is based on events not base on faith alone what is written in the Bible are historical. Jesus resurrection was a major event it was about Christ about God about proving to the world that Jesus is Christ is God. Without the resurrection there will be no Christianity.

If Jesus body was remove and transported somewhere else was that part of the general plan to create the resurrection? And for what purpose? To create a mega religion? To use it as a mean to seize control of Jewish religion or gain control of the world? There was no logical reason as to why followers of Jesus would create the resurrection other than to suffer terrible death, lost all earthly wealth, lost all social status.
Did they somehow knew that thousand years later after they all suffer terrible death that future followers of Christ will become rich, mega churches will rise up etc.?

Maybe if you can give me logical reasons why would they plan the Resurrection.

 

Can you read? Do you understand what I have written? You reply makes absolutely no sense in replying to my post.

And there was no PLAN to create a 'Resurrection'. Unless the body was meant to remain there, and it wasn't, it had to be moved as soon as possible. If it had been left there it would have decayed very quickly and impossible to move. This is the Middle East. Why do you think people are often buried on the day they die? The cave/tomb belonged to someone - probably Joseph's family tomb, or the tomb of someone who allowed Joseph to use it briefly.

When the women arrived the tomb was empty, superstition took over.

Your 3 reasons

to create a mega religion
seize control of the Jewish religion
gain control of the world

are so ridiculous it shows you understand very little.

There is no logical reason to plan the Resurrection. There was no Resurrection. And, by the way, many Christians in the early Church deliberately caused trouble with the authorities to have themselves 'martyred' for the faith.

 

Humans are far from perfect.

Even the Bible has God himself regretting his error.

 

Who cares ? Lack of evidence disproving something is not proof that this something exists. Just because there is no physical evidence that Pluto is not made of Green Cheese does not make it so.

Now you are changing the goal posts. There is a difference between "Evidence" and "Physical Evidence".

My guess is that you do not understand this difference.

 

In other words there was no evidence of any plot or plan to create the resurrection of Jesus.
The Resurrection is the key the evidence of Jesus the preacher of Nazareth is the Son of God, the Christ.

Superstition can easily be refuted and press down but not actual events. Christ resurrection was no superstition and was not plan by his followers. The Jewish leaders tried very hard and use all their powers to find Jesus body but no success.

Does this mean that your claim that because no body could be found mean no Jesus? Is this the same as Genghis Khan the greatest conqueror of history his body is no where to be found does this mean Genghis Khan is not real just like Jesus?

 

Genesis 1: 31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Genesis 6: 5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.

 

Physical evidences? so this is the same as saying that because no physical evidences of Genghis Khan mean he is not real? Is this what you mean changing the goal post?