Part IV Post your tough Questions on Christianity

Because it never happened.

 

Thutmoses III: (1479-1425)

http://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-exodus-date-1440bc.htm

 

God accomplish = freed the Hebrews, establish the nation of Israel in the Promise Land, begun Bible writing when Moses started to write down what God has commanded him to do.
There is no Jewish Pharaoh, only you claim there is one.

Yes, many proof that it happen.
http://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-exodus-date-1440bc.htm

Thutmoses III: (1479-1425) Pharaoh during the Exodus era.
Egypt has many other none Hebrew slaves.
The struggle, wars between the Israelites, Canaanites, Amorites, Philistines were all well recorded and it is the background of the establishment of the Nation of Israel.

 

God commanded Moses to kill them all. You have no idea what you're talking about, you just make it up as you go along.

 

Woah, woah, woah. I was fine with you declaring that the word ape was used in a derogatory fashion, but it did NOT originate as a racist term.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape

""Ape", from Old English apa, is possibly an onomatopoetic imitation of animal chatter. The term has a history of rather imprecise usage. Its earliest meaning was a tailless (and therefore exceptionally human-like) non-human primate.[7] The original usage of "ape" in English might have referred to the baboon, an Old World monkey.[citation needed] Two tailless species of macaque have common names including "ape": the Barbary ape of North Africa (introduced into Gibraltar), Macaca sylvanus, and the Sulawesi black ape or Celebes crested macaque, M. nigra."

And yes, it IS being used in mainstream science to refer to the family Hominidae, but usually the term "Great Apes" is used.

Absolutely not. Can you provide ANY proof of this analogous comparison? I already stated that as early as 1860 Thomas Huxley was using the term to refer to non-human apes and not "inferior peoples."

No, they aren't that different. You keep claiming that but haven't provided any evidence for it; you continuously say that non-human apes can't do things that humans can and you've been continuously wrong.

WanRen, I sincerely doubt that you have any clue about what evolution is.

 

This too is not what the text says, and it makes no sense at all as neither Pharoah nor Egypt ever worships God, so having Pharoah worship God can't be the key to freeing the Hebrews from captivity.
Strike eight.

 

2488 what? BC?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thutmose_III
http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/tuthmosis3.htm I think the tourist industry would be all over this. Would bring in a great many tourists, especially if they had a documented route of the exodus.

Seems his reign, especially his military campaigns, were well documented. No mention of any activity with Moses or Hebrews/Jews/Israelis/etc. How come?

 

There is a revelation here about drug addiction. Just like the Pharaoh, the addict has a chance to not start at all or quit early on. When he refuses to do that, he is condemned to being hopelessly addicted. Because of his original sin, he deserves no sympathy for no longer being able to help himself.

 

What are you talking about? This makes no sense at all.
Who forces the addict to reject sobriety?
This really is a failed analogy.

 

2X
I agree with the general idea.

What Pharaoh was addicted to was the power he held as a birth right.
God was very important in this, since Pharaoh was a god on Earth, himself, and hence held that power which Moses was jeapordizing with this sudden appearance of a new, never before seen God of the Jews.

That God tells Moses that nothing he will say will matter seems merely to infwr God understands the human condition quite well.

But the urpose of Moses was to collect his Hebrews and leave.
So when God explains that Pharaoh will oppose him, it is useful information that an and was used as Moses step by step proceeded to do what he did.

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Nah....

The evidence supprts Moses living around 1362BC.

 

lol.

 

I'm guessing he is new to scripture and how it is written.

 

But you said "God will harden the Pharaoh's heart only on that moment so that to convince Pharaoh to worship Him it is not about letting the Hebrews go it is about God demonstrating His ultimate powers so that the Pharaoh and Egypt will worship Him" how come theres no record of a Pharaoh becomeing a jew, worshiping 1 god, or claiming he himself isnt the divine ruler?

You're link presents no scientific proof of the exodus.

Section B

#1-6 proof of nothing.
#7 looks like indentured Egyptian servants to me, not Hebrews.
#8-9 proof of nothing.
#10-11 isnt the erasing of evidence of Hebrew. That is a very ignorant claim by the site. Tuthmose III wasn't old enough when his time to reign came so she was given power. when he came of age he had trouble gaining power (which led to her questionable death) and his animosity towards her.
the rest is complete rubbish. every nearly pharoah had military campaigns. that's where alot of its wealth came from

present some real scientific evidence. not that bias agenda crap.

 

WanRen....how do you know the EXACT year that Moses died? 2488 BCE?

 

Not to mention that, if Moses wasn't a fictional character, most religious scholars put his death about 1,000 years later...

 

Obviously not the truth is it? If it were the whole world would buy it. They don't. It's only considered truth to Bibliotards.

 

So you are saying God order Moses to kill them all, in this case according your make up story that is not killing then if you already know the answer to your own question then why bother yo ask.

 

Ok, derogatory is and can be = racist. The bottom line is it was not scientifically use but as you said and I agree as a derogatory way to undermine natives and proof the superiority of the white Europeans.

Yes, that is the science of apes but it was use to degrade and downgrade the natives. That is why Charles Darwin refuse to join that declaration from racist scientist.

And before Thomas Huxley who first coin that term?

Wow, well if you can not see the difference between apes and humans then you have some issues.

You are contradicting yourself and your own science.
I from your own link;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primate#Historical_and_modern_terminology

It clearly show that humans evolve from a Primate and apes and great apes also evolve from a Primate. No proof what that Primate is as I said it can easily be:
1. An ape?
2. A human?
3. Or a combination of both?

Science theory can only go as far back and it clearly show that apes evolve from its own species that is why for million of years apes remain the same no change while humans who according to science evolve from the same Primate evolve to become a superior intelligent creature. This is a clear evidence that humans and apes are of their own kind just like what the Bible said God created all creatures according to their own kind.

I have provided you with tons of evidence but it your own blindness that have cause you to insist to think that humans evolve from apes.
As I said, just like the N word was misuse by early white Europeans although technically there is nothing wrong with the same can be said with ape. That is why again, all links will show that humans and apes evolve from a Primate. And for you to ignore the derogatory and racist history of the term ape is sad.

 

That is why God wants to proof to Pharaoh that Egypt is worshipping the wrong god and Moses was assign to show God's power so that Egypt will worship God.

 

Okay....I am no longer of the faith, yet it seems I know more than WanRen ever did.

No "TRUE CHRISTIAN" would diminish the God they worship by putting such stupid words in its mouth.

The goal is supposed to be adding to the flock....not pushing it away with this drivel.

 

Ten times!!!!

 

Of course it is the truth.

It is only considered non-truth by Bibioretards.

 

Where is it written God wanted egypt to worship him/it/they? All egypt was to do was release the slaves, not convert to hebrewism.

 

It was scientifically used. You claimed that it originated as a racist word. That is incorrect. It pretty much had the same meaning as "monkey" for quite awhile; it originated very early on as a scientific term. You do know that the word "monkey" has been used in racist and derogatory manners as well, right? Can we no longer use monkey scientifically because of that, either?

No clue.

I'm just going to assume that it is your poor English skills that led you to saying this. I said that we aren't that different, I never said we weren't different at all.

How have I contradicted myself? What am I contradicting?

For the last time, apes are not a species, they are a taxonomic family. There is a large difference.

The N word originated as a racist term to refer to black people, monkey and ape did not.