Paying for Illegal Immigrant Healthcare Is Insane

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Ethereal, Jul 11, 2019.

  1. kvmj

    kvmj Well-Known Member

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    Relax. The candidates said that immigrants would have access to health care. It doesn't mean that they'll be provided with insurance, just that they can be treated by a doctor.
     
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    Ok, I misunderstood. There are other dimes around the world to facilitate treatment. What to do?
     
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    You just described an inverse relationship. If you're saying "UE goes down, employment goes up," that is an inverse relationship.

    Or maybe you just don't know what the word inverse means...

    So explain how "More people working" leads to "more jobs going unfilled." Again, these are your words, and it's unclear if you understand the connotations of specific words that you choose to use.
     
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    There isn’t a good answer. We can’t force people of other countries to stop being ****hole countries. We’d be accused of colonialism etc. We can’t force our hardworking citizens to provide charity for everyone. We’d all end up poor and sick.

    In a perfect world the people of these destitute countries would oust their oppressors and build an economy where they could provide for themselves. It isn’t happening. How do you go about encouraging them to do so? Got any ideas? I don’t think bringing the ones here that have any motivation at all helps in the long run. Just makes their countries weaker.

    I enjoy helping people in need. I do prefer to take care of my family and neighbors first, instead of having to support them out of the crumbs left after redistribution to every Tom, Dick, and Harry the government thinks needs my help.

    Would you support extending monetary and/or military/materiel aid to asylum seekers and economically disenfranchised immigrants to help them fix their home countries?

    Just so there aren’t any more misunderstandings, my statement that everyone should come here was facetious as well. I agree there must be other dimes created elsewhere or we are just gerbils running in an exercise wheel.
     
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    You are confused. They were asked if their version of Medicare for All would cover undocumented immigrants. They all raised their hand in the affirmative. They specifically affirmed that undocumented's would be provided with insurance under their plan.
     
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    Yes, I have been preaching that right along. We are somewhat responsible for the deluge because we have given money to the tyrants
    in the name of oil, instead of directly to the population. Money and supplies. What to do about the thugs that permeate those countries? We made a move to that effect in Panama. Tough call today. Where is Reagan when we need him?
     
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    I say nor mean no such thing.
    Low UE means not many people are filing for UE. Meaning people aren't getting laid off. Not out there looking for work.
    So any new jobs, IF ANY COME UP, likely have to be filled by those without a job. Immigrants is one group that would do that.

    This isn't a binary world, where one thing happens an equal and opposite automatically happens. There are 100s of variables involved.

    Your sarcastic personal attacks are getting tiresome.
    If you can't stick to the topic, maybe you should just not respond. Or maybe stop thinking everything in the world is a binary only option.
     
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    I don't know, the Trans thing might be a big winner for Dems.

    MEN ARE BETTER AT EVERYTHING, I GUESS, EVEN WOMEN’S WEIGHTLIFTING: Another man wins gold in women’s weightlifting.
     
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    How about you define what your terms are so you'll stop confusing people?

    You've only mentioned two variables; probably for the benefit of the conversation. However, if you're unable to get the two variables correct, I don't see how you can have a meaningful conversation of the other hundreds (not that there would be that many, anyway).

    No one has attacked you.
     
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    UE is a well defined term.
     
  11. Socratica

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    So define it.
     
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    Thats called religion. And it hasnt changed.
     
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    The Democrats running for President want to give non-citizens Heath care. Not just free emergency room care that they already are getting, but Health Insurance. Later by us with tax dollars. While mAny of our children in their late 20s and 30s cannot afford Obama care of private insurance.

    Really? What a crock of you know what.

    So many Steeple Democrats are clueless. I can only believe they have no knowledge of how our current heath insurance works under Obama care.

    I am tired of Anifa being allowed to protest in a violent manner. Car worse than so called white supremists. I hate both groups. Both should be arrested when they become violent. And Antifa should not be allowed to wear a mask to escape arrest.
     
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    Emergency room care is not free. We pay for it.
    I agree about Antifa, and let's include White supremacists in that equation, as they are surely not "so-called".
     
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