Peace process begins in Syria, US abstains

really.... information clearing house..... news you won't find on CNN and Fox.... we scraping the barrel now

 

It means that the USA in still run by International Banksters.

 

You mean you prefer CNN and Fox and the rest of the mainstream media to independent sources? If so, I'm not surprised.

Facts are facts. Some get reported in the MSM, but many do not. There is a reason the MSM did not report the meeting in Sochi, and it has to do greatly with the public perception.

Global Research of Canada may be a bit too analytical and cerebral for your liking. Stick to MSM, and you will be much happier.

 

The US serves the agenda of Israel in that part of the world. As the goal is a Greater Israel, it ain't over yet.

 

And the vast majority of Sunni have suffered far more terrorists attacks than we have.

 

yes, committed mostly by their fellow Sunnis.

 

Then perhaps Israel should snuggled up to Hezbollah and make peace with them.

 

i fully agree.

Shia are no longer the enemy.

Sunnis extremists are. they are causing all the world's terrorism

Iran and Israel had good relations before the revolution and even before the king was removed.

 

It means providing a story from a baised source will get you nowhere close to an honest argument., it also means you forgot that those sides practicly fought each other and failed to acheive an agreement - so on what basis are you surprised the US and its allies dont recognize this "diplomatic" talks ? because this Finian fellow wrote about it ? what was there to make you think they could agree on Russia-Assad-Iran intersts if they never did ? oh you think YOUR side has morals because it either banished or subdued all the Syrians that wanted a free Syria, no you got none....., yes you helped to defeat ISIS but that doesnt wash Assad hands.

 

Does it matter what they talked about? Whatever Trump decides the deep state will go against it. ..or more accurately, Soros and his ilk. Whenever Kerry would come to some peace agreement with Lavrov, he would call Obama and that was always the end of that. Lavrov later said that Kerry was a good person, but Obama was evil. But then again, Obama was taking his orders from the boss.

I like the latest, that the organization that will determine what is fake news on google, is supported by George Soros. How much better can it get?

 

King? You mean the Shah.. Yeah, Israel used to buy cheap oil from Iran, but after 1979 Israel didn't pay their bill for 13 years.. Hundreds of millions of dollars plus interest.

 

The Sunnis killed were moderate Sunnis. They are the ones who wanted the secular Assad government in Syria, and were killed by the Takfiris and other extremists ... many of whom were supported by criminal regimes such as Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

 

They didnt help you they fought for dominance "extremist doctrine" as in suicide terror is sponssored by Iran as well, its the method the problem, enemies and targets change with time.

 

Finally I agree with you. Iran has never been an aggressive nation, other than in the paranoid minds of its neighbors. Israel should make peace with it, and the problems would probably solve itself. When the external threat and pressure of Israel and Washington is gone, the Iranians will start thinking more rationally and start making changes in their government.

 

i agree, peace between Israel and Iran could be very good.

 

You know very well that if we start arguying who is the aggressor here your answers will always be taking a step back "yes, but ..." till you reach 1948 and at that point that Israel has no right to exist, and with that kind of "peace" offer I will call hypocracy.

 

Things were very bad in Syria... Once Assad started killing school boys and protesters, moderates also turned on him.

 

too bad the Saudis had to start supporting ISIS and other Sunni extremists in the Syrian war

 

The Saudis never supported ISIS.. ISIS declared war on Saudi Arabia in 2012.

 

Oh, then the 'corporate' news networks are the credible ones? Thank God we have Soros watching over our news outlets.

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Hillary Clinton, your heroine, seems to disagree with you.

and considering she was the Secretary of State, i think she knows a little more about international affairs than you.

 

Like they never supported AQ and the 911 attacks? Truth is, some of the royals indeed did support AQ. What is the difference in ideology between ISIS and AQ? Very little.

Qatar, SA, Turkey and the US supported the radicals in the FSA, and anyone who was trying to take down assad. This was not their official position of course, but they knew damn well that whatever they gave to non ISIS forces, would end up with ISIS forces. And it did. So was ISIS financed by their rich members? lol No. They were financed by people who were very wealthy, and by gov't, including our own. You think war is cheap to wage? That money grows on palm trees? So of course ISIS was financed, even if indirectly by Qatar, SA, and the US. Isn't it funny as hell, that no gains were being made against ISIS by the US, or the arabs, but when russia got involved, and actually didn't ***** foot around with ISIS, as we had done, well, Syria is just about cleared out of ISIS today. And we didn't do that! We were willing to use ISIS to take assad out, and that is how bad we wanted assad gone. But of course it could be that only russia could have taken isis out? That our highly technological military just couldn't pull it off? The greatest military on earth, got showed up by russia? lol Of course not! We were using isis, to help take assad down. And russia dropped some pubic hair in our soup.

So, trump campaigned on trying to work with russia to take out radicals in syria. The reason trump was accused of working for putin, was because we didn't want to take isis out, and we knew if we teamed up with russia, we could destroy them. And trump didn't see a great need in removing assad and tearing up another nation, turning it over to worse people than assad is. You know, turning it over to sunni arabs? The pox on the middle east.

 

How would she know?

 

I'm talking about cultures. There are aggressive ones, and non aggressive ones. I don't see Iran as being aggressive... provocative maybe, but not aggressive. There is also human nature, and people will react harshly when pressure is being applied. ..so there is no gain.

Harping and dwelling on the past provokes others, so the offenses end up repeating themselves over and over again. As for Israel, although I abhor their reactions towards others in the Middle East, it would be unfair for the Palestinians to be given back the land, considering that there are tens of millions of people that have had their lands taken away in Europe and the Near East. Why the Palestinians and not them?

Just because Islam is a political entity as well as a religious one, and believes any land that Muslims have lived on and isn't under Islam today is an insult to their faith, doesn't mean people must acquiesce to those beliefs and terms.

 

Well, the Saudis are not exporting Sufism, but Wahabism. And the later is extremist and radical islam comes from it. Nothing moderate about wahabism, and the Saudis have spent some of wealth in spreading this around the world.

Anyways, while these tribal camel jockeys, the arabs, were wandering about in the deserts, the Persians had already created great civilizations long ago. The arabs would still be riding their camels living in tents, if not for their oil with the West choosing the people they wanted to deal with in regards to their oil from saudi arabia.

So who attacked us on 911? Sunnis, or Shia? lol Who are the terrorists who attack europe and the west? Shia? lol So, if you simply looked at who is trying to kill us, that would be mostly Sunnis. And if we look at who financed 911 and aided them, that also would be Sunnis, specifically from guess where? Saudi Arabia. And yet, we are gunning for the persian shia, instead of the real enemy, the arab sunnis. Cosmic scaled irony here.

And of course you do understand why the Bush family have such strong ties with the sunni saudis, right? You know much about that history? Does George Herbert Walker ring any historical bells? And of course history also tells us who the Shah of Iran was, and how he came to rule Iran. As it tells us what the People in Iran did with their western puppet. As it even tells us why Iran has a problem with the US. But of course, if america had the decency to exchange shoes with Iran, then we might actually have some coherent understanding of all of this madness. But we, but not me, have been conditioned, like Pavlov's dogs, to have a particular opinion of Iran. And being herd aninals, which tend to also be as tribal as some middle eastern tribe, we are so easily duped and fooled. And since wearing the other nation's shoes for a few minutes is off the table, we become treasonous inglorious bastards, compliments of those who have enriched themselves off of the middle east and their sock puppets in DC. And a very powerful jewish lobby. Not that I have anything against the Jews, but I do have much against PNAC and the neocons, which have a high percentage of right wing jews among them.

Conservative sunni islam is a pox upon this world. They are the enemy. We should have thrown in with the Persian long ago. For they have been civilized for a very long time, unlike the camel jockey sunni tribes. And unlike SA, christians do not have to hide from public in order to worship. Same with Syria once upon a time. And you know when you lived in SA, your own worship had to be done in private and never public. Iran would have been a much more civilized place for you to live.