Peace process begins in Syria, US abstains

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  1. One Mind

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    We hate the fact that we could not turn syria into Libya. It is that simple, at the end of the day. If PNAC fails in syria, this is quite the set back for these neocons in DC. But I figure we still have something up our sleeve. But hopefully, that too will fail, and our corporations will get left out on rebuilding syria, and they will not take this very well at all. But we do have two sleeves, right? lol

    If syria can pull this off, we finally have a nation in the middle east that with the invited in help of russia and iran, have finally defeated our insanity, the insanity of PNAC, that was created by sociopaths in a neocon think tank, financed by the war industries.

    But we got bigger fish to fry. Iran. And you should expect to see an increase in propaganda in regards to Iran, gleefully carried out by our MSM, on behalf of DC and those elites who own DC. For consent will need to be manufactured here at home with the herd, so watch out for that. And yes, when you actually have a handle on what reality is, these predictions are always fail proof. After all, the scheme was laid out and made public in PNAC. So no coincidence involved that the nations on that PNAC list, have been taken down, and syria is the first failure, if it holds. But Iran is still on that list, and while russia is on that list, it was not to be taken down, given they can nuke us, but the build up to worsened relations with russia is a part of the PNAC scheme, and this russian ruse is being used by the schemers.

    And all you had to do to understand this, and get a handle on reality, was simply to read PNAC. All the necons needed to kick it off, as our foreign policy was something big, you know, like 911? This was contained in the original PNAC paper, but mysteriously vanished deleted, after 911. Oh, another of those damned coincidences!
     
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  2. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Right, like Yanukovich was responsible for the snipers in Ukraine. A Georgian sniper was furious that he wasn't paid for his work and confessed last week. He said they were ordered to shoot into the crowd at police and protesters to cause chaos and over throw the elected president.

    Of course he was lying, our government would never do such a thing... even though the bullets came from the same gun, and from the same direction. :roll:

    Anyway as soon as the moderates realized they were duped by the CIA and Soros' NGO's, and that extremists would take over the government, they joined Assad's army.
     
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  3. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Margot, Assad is going to make changes to the constitution in Syria. Putin also invited Washington to aid Syria. I gather from this, that if aid is forthcoming, American companies will be able to assist in rebuilding the country. Anyway this is my conclusion, and if I'm right, it's probably what Putin and Trump spoke about. Let's see if it comes to fruition or will the neo cons block it.
     
  4. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps it means the Syrian civil war should never have been our business in the first place. Perhaps, now that ISIS is defeated, we should butt out of Syria.
     
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    It means several things:

    - We stay out of building their new regime, like many have been begging

    - We don't spend money on another country doomed to fail again soon

    - We can't be blamed for their failures

    - We can't be blamed for colluding with Russia

    - We can be their help, if and when they ask, since we are no longer the problem

    If we did help our enemies, we would be turning our backs on allies and the families of those who died in the struggle. A balance of power will be returned to the area. Russia will not allow much insurrection in their satellite nations. They will fire upon their own when necessary, to restore order. The U.S. cannot do that without great backlash.

    It is a win for all involved.
     
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    Chester_Murphy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, I hope our businesses stay out of it, too.
     
  7. Margot2

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    You know that Saudi Arabia and Qatar don't agree on anything. Qatar supports Iran and MB.

    The ****-a-mammie conspiracy stories get crazier all the time.
     
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    You have been claiming the US backed ISIS all along.. There is NO reason for the US to help Russia and Iran rebuild Syria.. Assad is worth 500 billion and his family is worth 5 billion.. So let them pay to rebuild Syria.. They should have helped their people before 2011.
     
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    she's Secretary of State.

    duhhhh
     
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    I prefer news from CNN and Fox to news from the Internet Research Agency in St Petersburg... you work there... of course you'd be pushing what they're selling

     
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    Have you ever lived in the ME?I lived there 2 decades and the Saudis helped us with out life sized Christmas pageant.. particularly with the animals gathered around the manger, the camels of the 3 kings and helping keep the angel choir on top of the manger.

    They also helped us with out sunrise Easter service at Half Moon Bay. Sometimes ignorance turns people into vicious little toads.

    Too much turmoil in Iran.. The British model never produced good results, but you wouldn't know the British model from the American model.
     
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    Maybe that means the so-called US led "coalition" in Syria has never existed? As far as I remember, that was one of their arguments - the USA was backed by the whole world, and Russia was alone, pariah, rogue state, Russia didn't fight against ISIS and so on, and so on... But now it seems the USA and its "coalition" appeared completely powerless against ISIS and not the USA but Russia cleaned Syria from ISIS terrorists. looks like "the US led coalition" existed only in imagination of the US non-state-owned propaganda outlets. The contribution of the USA in the peace process in Syria was such insignificant, so they simply don't have anything to put on the table.
     
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    "...that wanted a free Syria..." :cheerleader: Keep up that cheerleading for Greater Israel.

    They were mercenary forces, paid by US and Israeli interests.
     
  14. Jeannette

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    I didn't know I worked there? Oh well if you say so then why not, it's supposed to be a beautiful city.

    See the problem with CNN and Fox is that I caught them lying, and guess what? It made me sick to my stomach, and I heard a religious leader say that if something makes you sick to your stomach, it's demonic.

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    :lol: must have been very unsettling for you
     
  16. Jeannette

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    Oh for heavens sake, I should have expected the ridiculous from you. Honesty and forthrightness seems to elude you. :roflol:
     
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    Jackass Assad should have done that in 2009 before so many were killed and 5 million fled the country.
     
  18. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have never read any of the MSM since then. Anyway they're not journalists, they're stenographers and write what they're told. I prefer intellectual sites, and we have quite a few... although for a quick update on the news, I do like RT and sputnik since they have always been accurate and objective.

    I like Fort Russ, since it gives news I won't find elsewhere, but they're not always accurate. The articles are translated from Russian, and it seems they get carried away. The Duran is good, and he gives an excellent analysis on what he deems important... and he's always been right. As for Russia, Tass gives more than either RT or Sputnik.

    For an indepth analysis on certain subjects, Consortiumnews is good, New Eastern Outlook, Washingtonsblog, and Moon of Alabama is excellent. Anyway there's quite a few news sites on the internet, these are just a few.
     
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    The US was bombing the desert and pretending they were fighting ISIS until Russia entered the fray. Then they had to make some kind of show, but didn't want to bomb the tankers carrying the oil to Turkey, since it was being exchanged for arms to fight Assad.. The excuse Washington used, was that they didn't want to kill innocent people ...if you can believe it.

    Washington used the excuse of terrorists to bomb Syria and keep the war going on so that they could break Syria into ethnic enclaves. It didn't work. The Syrian people didn't want it, and they won. ..with Russia's help.

    Anyway the plans on how to destroy Syria have been around in Washington for over ten years. Their frustration must be unimaginable. They had the coup in Kiev so they could kick out the Russian base at Sevastopol and put in their own, and that was foiled. And now they planned on breaking up Syria to weaken it, and that was foiled as well because of Russia. No wonder May said that Russia is the cause of everything.

    Right, it's the cause of everything going wrong for Washington.

    Curses! I'm Foiled Again!
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    I'd much rather have Iran influence Syria, Lebanon and Iraq, than the Saudis.
     
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    Amen, under terms of live and let live I wish all the best to Iran and every other country on Earth.
     
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    If you are European I suggest you take a tour to the refugee camps and educate yourself a bit.
     
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    You have a very short memory.
     
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    Who do you think rebuilt Lebanon and provided scholarships fr a generation of Lebanese?
     
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    Who do you think bombed the Omar oil field?
     

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