Pelosi recommends law to limit presidential pardon power

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  1. Moriah

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    Do you think this pardon of Roger Stone might hurt Trump in November? I believe it will hurt him with Independent voters.
     
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    They gave over 100,000 emails. The adminstration was so transparent, we caught Mueller lying about the conversations the President's team had with the then-Flynn council, which also falsely implicated Dowd(think of it, a lawyer trying to falsely frame ANOTHER lawyer.).

    Robert Mueller can write all the co-eds he wants, get all of the fawning adoration he wants but the fact remains that he and his counsel damaged the US Presidency, damaged the country and its only major arrest of significance could have been done A: By the financial division of the FBI and B: As early as 2009.
     
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    Trump is just trying hard to divert attention from his failed Presidency
     
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    It'd help for people to know that it's a communion, not a pardon. Indeed, Mueller only got to make his crowing proclamation because it wasn't a pardon.
     
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    no future President or any of his admin will ever have to speak under oath to congress ever again thanks to Trump setting this president
     
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    Again ignoring my post. They lied, and you don’t even wonder why. Sad!
     
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    Good, congress is a legislative body. This shameful part of our history will now hopefully relegate it to its DESIGNED function of government.
     
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    I don't have to wonder why Mueller lied, he needed to look good. All prosecutors need to look good, we learned that from Van Grack.
    The whole judiciary is a joke, from the prosecutor whose sole interest is to incarcerate the suspect, the judge who's as human as you and me wearing a cloak and a gavel and thinking that actually makes him/her qualified to judge someone else and then there's the Jury where we think picking some random ass bozo's off the street will actually help to decide a case.

    There's no saving grace in the judiciary, there never has been. That's actually why we obey the law, to prevent from seeing that eyesore as we can.
     
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    Trump is now on par with the likes of Nixon
     
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    not good, means now there is no oversight of our Presidents... not good at all

    I am sure Republicans will get it if we get a dem President that acts like trump someday

    the founders did not want kings...
     
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    I do want a king, because our legislative body must be limited lest it get out of control. The Russia-gate scandal of a century showed what happened when we gave the legislature, non-legislative powers. It is a legislature, the President once said to legislate or investigate. I seek not to give Congress the "choice". It has none, it can only be a legislative body or nothing at all.
     
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    He’s a convicted felon who lied to protect trump and got special treatment for it.
     
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    This definitely explains your defense of trump.
     
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    Obama admin just more bad ass I guess.
     
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    Yeah, so "bad ass"... IranNavy_c0-63-2000-1229_s885x516.jpg
     
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    They all came home. Wish we could say the same for the victims of Putin’s bounties on our troops, which trump has all but endorsed
     
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    Obama tied our troops hands to save his ridiculous nuclear deal, what a shameful surrender. Do elaborate on "all but endorsed".

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    :applause::applause::applause:
     
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    Yah don’t you miss when we had a nuclear deal? Who knows wth they are up to now.
     
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    the President is the one out of control, without checks and balances and rule of law, this country is nothing

    the President is not above the law

    part of Congresses job is oversight of the Presidency
     
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    Commutation, not communion. And Stone remains a convicted felon either way.
     
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    Is this like the "he's forever impeached" nonsense? People might take actions or make declarations to try and legitimise this farce, but it was and remains a farce. Even when Trump is no longer a President, this is still a farce.
     
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    No, it's only job is to legislate for the country. It wants to "oversee the Presidency" but Adam Schiff has STILL yet to be penalized for lying.
    If it can't even look at its own branch of government, it doesn't have the right to even try looking at others.
     

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