Planned Parenthood is No Friend to Women

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  1. FoxHastings

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    No not all but if your pregnant and go there you most likely will leave there without a child

    http://liveaction.org/blog/less-than-8-of-planned-parenthoods-provide-prenatal-care-40-do-abortions/
     
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    And half of the lost generation, destroyed by PP, were women.

    Abortion Survivors Will Headline Hearing Next Week on Planned Parenthood Tearing Apart Aborted Babies And Selling Their Parts

    This is the first hearing in Congress’ multi-committee investigation of the abortion business after a series of nine videos exposed how it is potentially illegally selling aborted babies and profiting from the sales.

    http://www.lifenews.com/2015/09/01/...aborted-babies-one-just-fell-out-of-the-womb/

    “Planned Parenthood Exposed: Examining the Horrific Abortion Practices at the Nation’s Largest Abortion Provider.”
    Let Them Live!

    http://www.lifenews.com/2015/02/18/she-was-left-to-die-from-abortion-until-one-nurse-heard-a-cry/
    http://www.lifenews.com/2015/09/04/...on-planned-parenthood-selling-aborted-babies/

    ianna speaks about how she started suffering from cerebral palsy as a result of being starved of oxygen while she fought to stay alive in her mother’s womb. She now, however, sees this condition as a gift and asks: “If abortion is about women’s rights, then what were mine? There was not a radical feminist standing up and yelling about how my rights were being violated that day; in fact, my life was being snuffed out in the name of women’s rights.”

    The purpose of Wednesday’s hearing will be to hear from experts on the issues surrounding the alleged acts of Planned Parenthood. The hearing will examine details of late-term abortions, what is involved in altering an abortion in order to harvest fetal organs, and a history of the laws that protect, or fail to protect, the unborn from these barbaric practices.

    “Planned Parenthood and its executives must answer for the alleged atrocities brought to light in the videos by the Center for Medical Progress. For the past two months, the House Judiciary Committee has been investigating the alleged acts of Planned Parenthood and its affiliates, and now the American people will have a chance to understand just how horrific these practices are to the unborn,” he said.

    “We are pleased to have the opportunity to question a panel of experts on this issue in order to ascertain how Planned Parenthood may have violated federal laws in the course of its alleged practices, and the atrocities associated with altering abortions in order to obtain the body parts of fetuses,”
     
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    "Lifesitenews" :roflol: ...had their crap ripped apart so many times....but still the lies continue...


    I can't imagine why abortion survivors( EVEN IF YOU COULD PROVE THEY WERE ACTUALLY ABORTION SURVIVORS) would suddenly be human rights and/or Constitution Constitution experts (????)
     
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    If that's the case then when PP is put under oath and gives testimony to Congress on whether they are tearing apart babies and selling their pieces for profit, we shouldn't see anyone taking the fifth, should we?
     
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    Explain to me plz how infants in the mother's stomach are not considered humans. Am i not a human thing I'm completely lost
     
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    I said if your pregnant you most likely wont leave with a child. looks like you agree.

    Who said they cant think for themselves?
     
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    There are no "infants" in a woman's stomach. It is a fetus in a woman's womb. They are human (adjective). They are not A human ( noun) "person".
     
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    So your opinion is its not murder until its delivered?
     
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    Not until it's deliverable (viable outside the womb) It is not a person until then.

    And it is not only my opinion, it's the law.
     
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    Well, My opinion is,I am one of the persons that went to Planned Parenthood,when I was a young Woman,nothing like having a person's opinion that has actually used their service,HUH. I never got any infectious diseases, my annual pap-smear, breast examination-service was excellent,birth control & birth control education at a reasonable cost.
    There may be regret & I am sure it is real,but coercion being one of your points for defunding Planned Parenthood is really stretching it,if it is the parents or boyfriends doing the coercing,how is that Planned Parenthoods issue?
     
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    The law keeps changing as medical science makes progress and the age of viability goes down. So when they can raise babies in a test tube will you oppose abortion? Also how is it you are charged with murder in many states if you kill a fetus . Only Drs seem to have the right to do this killing and most refuse to
     
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    The law isn't changing, abortion is still legal.

    What has raising test tube babies got to do with a woman's right to choose?

    I don't know what a person is charged with if they kill a fetus without the woman's consent....states may vary. The UVVA law makes it clear that abortions are exempt. That is because it has to do with consent.


    "Most" doctors refuse to do abortions? I see no proof of that and it doesn't matter as long as women get the abortions they want.
     
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    Sorry but biology 101 is a little outside the scope of this forum but I will try

    Start with this site

    https://embryology.med.unsw.edu.au/embryology/index.php/Main_Page

    It will explain how fertilisation occurs and this forms a Blastocyst which is a group of cells - NOT and infant and how that them implants into the UTERUS, not the stomach.

    Wiki is also a good resource for basic information
     
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    The number of weeks that a fetus is viable has changed over the years and the laws have been changed in many states to reflect that

    You said it wasn't murder until it was feasible. If you could remove it and let it finish in a test tube why abort it?

    In Texas its murder

    Only 14 Percent Of Ob-Gyns Will Perform Abortions
     
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    Age of viability has not changed for more than 20 years. See below around 23 weeks the organs are simply not developed enough - yeah about one in a million tries we can get a 22 week baby to survive but that is still 999,999 who die for every one that lives - and many of those who are subjected to maximal intervention die in pain and discomfort
     
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    No, it's still legal up to 23 weeks. Yes, some states in their war on women have shortened the time just to make it harder especially on poor women who need it the most. It's called "hate women".


    I NEVER said the word feasible...the word is viable.

    There is NO reason for a woman to donate her fetus to be grown in a test tube for YOU to support......Yes, YOU. Why not? YOU want the baby YOU should pay for the baby.

    From your post: ""A survey of 1,800 practicing ob-gyns found that while 97 percent of them have encountered a woman seeking an abortion, only 14 percent are willing or able to provide them.

    Of the doctors who do perform abortions, some interesting demographic facts could be gleaned: Female doctors were almost twice as likely (18.6 percent versus 10.6 percent) to provide abortions than their male colleagues.

    Doctors ages 26-35 are most likely to perform abortions. """"


    Did you notice the YOUNGER, UP and COMING doctors have less of a problem....:)
     
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    So you agree

    Viable feasible same thing

    That's hardly any and only those Drs can perform abortions. They represent only a small portion of Drs

    Shows you how liberal indoctrination is messing up the younger generation. Besides they will grow out of it
     
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    Are you under the misconception that abortions occur regularly AFTER viability?

    The vast majority of late term abortions (which are only a tiny fraction of all abortions) occur because of foetal abnormality incompatible with life

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    No you won't - because the only place that is happening is in the imagination of some
     
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    Your right
    [QUOTET]he Philadelphia abortion doctor who was convicted of first-degree murder for killing babies that were born alive in his clinic has been sentenced to 30 years in prison for running a pill mill out of the same clinic, according to a U.S. attorney's office statement.[/QUOTE]

    Even 1 is 1 too many
     
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    Women having a right to their own bodies and doctors performing legal medical procedures is "liberal indoctrination"? YES! :)

    I never agreed feasible was what you claimed I said or that it was the same as viable. Why do all Anti-Choicers HAVE to be so dishonest???


    You forgot the part where you agree to pay for test tube babies: ""There is NO reason for a woman to donate her fetus to be grown in a test tube for YOU to support......Yes, YOU. Why not? YOU want the baby YOU should pay for the baby.""
     
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    Even 1 is 1 too many[/QUOTE]

    What part of 'convicted for murder' is difficult to understand?

    Gosnell was acting illegally and he flourished for much the same reasons as a multitude of Gosnells will flourish if you make abortion illegal. There was no-one else who would or could perform what was required - and the question you HAVE to ask is - What is so horrific that visiting a known butcher like Gosnell looks like the preferred option?

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    Your BEST evidence is Twitter??????
     
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    Remember half the babies that Planned Parenthood kills are girls!!!!!
     

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