Poll: Vast Majority of Israel’s Arabs ‘Proud’ to be Israeli

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    Arabs in Israel are treated better by Israel than in any other nation. And Israeli Jews are aligned in 4 different sects:

    Muslims make up ~ 15% of the population of Israel with Christians at ~ 2%.

    http://www.pewforum.org/2016/03/08/israels-religiously-divided-society/
     
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    Have any Arabs had their hands amputated, heads removed, or been hanged for adultery. It's the best country in the ME for Arabs.

    You are seriously suggesting that the majority of Israelis want genocide as a way to deal with Israeli Arabs ??
     
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    The best in the Middle East for Arabs for sure, and it happens to be a Jewish country. No wonder, Arabs are dying to get to Israel. Oh, the irony :happycry:
     
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    pfff... the Jews ethnic cleansed +700.000 Arab from it, and the remainders get discriminated all over the place. The Jews still violently oppress their fellow Palestinians, indiscriminately killing them or ethnic cleansing them. That is worse than criminals being punished.
     
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    Says you...

    yawn

    A country where the majority of the Jews want Arabs ethnic cleansed... and so discriminate them all over. A country where they kill Arab civilians indiscriminately, or ethnic cleanse them. And because of that, is the most condemned country on the planet by the UN = the world. So much better than Arab rule of law.
     
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    What about Israel's Jewish Arabs and African Jews are they happy and proud?

    https://972mag.com/anti-mizrahi-discrimination-was-official-israeli-policy/130948/

    It's time the Arab Jews started remembering the Palestinians were there friends. I remember reading a story about one Arab Jew who used to take the bus back to her home country once a week or so.....
    this too will change.

    and speaking of Africans. Israel is sending African Refugees back to torture and death

    http://jfjfp.com/?p=96656
     
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    That’s complete bunk. Israelis have liquidated 700,000 Arabs ??
     
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    No, it does not. You obviously don't know how to read polls.

    Exhibit number one, from your link;
    Exhibit number two:
    What have we learned from the above exhibits? That only 8/% of those polled identified as left wing, and that Israeli Jews' views on Arabs depend on their political ideology. We now know that most of the answers were given by right wingers, meaning that the poll gives us roughly the position of the Israeli right wing, not the position of Israeli Jews. I wonder if Bayes' theorem can be applied to these results to get a more accurate picture.

    There's a very good reason why Pew publishes, alongside the results of the polls, the methodology used and other details. Statistics can be terribly misleading if not interpreted correctly.
     
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    Well look if only 8% of Israel's population are left wing and a majority of the right wing agree with the expulsion of arabs

    then it is a bit rich to say it is misleading given that the left in Israel are a tiny minority, only 8%. Take away that 8% who fight with all their ability for justice in Israel and are increasing called traitors and so on and yes, he is right then the majority of Israelis who are not considered traitors want to expel their Arab Citizens. ;) Obviously given that only 8% of Israeli society are left wing to be representative the majority polled will be right wing.

    Interesting poll. Even more Christians 72% than Muslims 63% believe Israel cannot be both a Jewish and Democratic State.
     
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    60% are proud to be Israelis.
    I say to the other 40% .. take your stuff and move to Ramallah or Gaza.
    Better .. Move to Jordan .. the Palestinian territory.
    40% wining ... blahhhh .. see what's happening in the 22 Muslim Arab countries and understand that you live in paradize.
     
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    No. Only 8% of the Israeli Jews polled identified as left wing. The rest identified as right wing.

    I don't know what percent of Israeli population are left wing (including center-left, and the center-right is surely more moderate as well), but it's a lot more than 8%.
     
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    Forget that. I have found the bit and am looking at it now.
     
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    No that's how many Arabs were forced out of Palestine in 1948.
     
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    They were not forced. Palestine is a region consisting of parts of current Israel, Egypt, and Jordan.
     
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    Ok, thank you Pisa, as I said in the post I deleted, it would be unusual for the Pew not to give results which did not proportionally represent the population and as far as religion they say

    suggesting that this is something they normally do.


    Now as far as left/right is concerned They have a diagram.


    [​IMG]

    They are sourcing this from a previous questionnaire.

    They go into how this fits into secular and religious groups and do indeed include centre left and right.

    cont'd

    http://www.pewforum.org/2016/03/08/israels-religiously-divided-society/

    They go on further to identify these with the leaning of political parties. I am not sure where you got the idea it was just left and right.

    I hope this wasn't about diverting things again.

     
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    They were forced out to Lebanon, Syria, Iraq.. with more following in 1956, 1967, 1973.. and since then from the Negev.

    Most living in Gaza weren't born there. They are refugees from the West Bank and the Negev.

    I saw the some of the refugee camps in Lebanon in the early 1950s..
     
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    Propaganda
     
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    I'm sorry. It isn't propaganda. Read some of the Israeli historians like Bennie Morris. They are the first generation of scholars to have access to the Israeli archives.
     
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    To claim that all Arabs were "forced" out of Palestine is propaganda. Why did some choose to remain in Israel, Egypt, and Jordan ??
     
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    Those in Egypt and Jordan were also refugees from Israel and later the West Bank. Read Benny Morris.

    Its all water under the bridge now.. The more urgent matter is how to go forward and pursue a just peace.

    Yesterday Assad informed Bibi that Syria and Iran were going to build bases on the Lebanese border. Bibi's response was that Israel would destroy them.
     
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    I wrote "the Jews ethnic cleansed +700.000 Arab from it"....
    /facedesk
     
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    Those in Egypt and Jordan were part of the Palestine region. Any Arabs that left Israel for those regions did so voluntarily.

    Israel has been trying to negotiate a just peace for decades. The Palestinian leadership wants none of that - they make too much money from the conflict.

    Good for Benjamin.
     
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    Ethnic cleansing implies genocide. Then why did the Israelis leave some Arabs in the country. Arabs make up ~ 15% of Israeli citizens.
     
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    Dude.... seriously. My source specifically mentions what % of the Haredi, Dati, Masorti and Hiloni Jews want to expel Arabs.
    It simply does give the position of Israeli Jews. Clear and simple.
    And the truth is a majority of Israeli Jews is pro ethnic cleansing.
     
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    How about you look up your nonsense in a dictionary if that is true.
     

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