Poll: Vast Majority of Israel’s Arabs ‘Proud’ to be Israeli

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  1. notme

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    That is New wave about New wave. :applause:
     
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    It's like you will try to ask the simple man something about physics- you will not get a relaible answer. If you want a relaible answer about the two terms, you need to got to the official documents that clerify what is ethnic cleansing, and what is genocide. Such documents you can find in the UN, as I provided to you and those shows that ethnic cleansing and genocide are totally different.
     
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    Irrelevant - the phrase means genocide in today's world. And anyone who uses the phrase today is well aware of that.
     
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    The simple man that works 10-12 hours per day and uses this terms do not know about it's actuall definition as the UN determined it in it's conventions.
     
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    But he listens to the news which tells him that ethnic cleansing is genocide.
     
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    The news is not a relaible source, since the news care about rating and more interesting subjects to talk about. Such subjects can also be sleazy things.
     
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    Reality to the lightly informed is that ethnic cleansing and genocide are the same thing.
     
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    According to the conventions that deal with ethnic cleansing and genocide contradicts your claim, as I showed you.

    The people that are "lightly informed", are not informed in this subject to fully know the difference, and that's why they are called "lightly informed".
     
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    Most people in the US are "lightly informed" and many who are moderately and highly informed equate ethnic cleansing and genocide.
     
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    And yet, the conventions on the subject that clerify the definition of ethnic cleansing and genocide, show that those two terms are totally different. Therefore, your claim that ethnic cleansing and genocide are alike, is totally false.
     
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    They are the same.
     
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    Repeating on stuff will not make them right. The conventions regaridng ethnic cleansing and genocide shows that they are totally different terms.
     
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    I'm repeating your sources.
     
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    If your saying that, you didnt read my sources. Once again:
    Ethnic cleansing is not Genocide.
    Ethnic cleansing is:
    and Genocide is, as Article 2 of the Genocide convention clerify us:
    Source'1: http://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/ethnic-cleansing.html
    Source`2: http://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.html

    As you can read, the definition of Genocide does not talk about a removal of people from a certain geographical area, but about killing, causing serious bodily or mental harm, worsened of the conditions of certain group that will bring it's physical destructing in whole or in part, imposing measures intended to prevent births.

    Yes, you can judge the Genocide convention that it is very blurry, and regarding the fact that it was altered from it's first intention, as Raphael Lemkin inteded to be, by removing "political groups" from groups that will suffer from genocide, and that was because the pressure from the USSR (and even the US that affraid that with the Genocide convention will be retro-activated regarding the mass killing, which some will say genocide, occur to the Native Americans, and therefore didnt want to accept, at first, the convention regarding Genocide).
     
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    You keep making my case. Ethnic cleansing is genocide. It’s included.
     
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    So according to you ethnic cleansing is: killing members of the group, causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group, deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part and imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group? Because the convention regarding ethnic cleansing, ethnic cleansing is only removing by force one group of people from a certain geographic areas, and it doesnt include death in any manner.
     
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    There you go again.
     
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    There I go what? Are you saying that ethnic cleansing is killing other people?
     
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    That’s what people equate it to.
     
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    And according to the definition, as the United Nations Commission of Experts mandated to look into violations of international humanitarian law committed in the territory of the former Yugoslavia defined, it is not regarding killing of any kind. Ethnic cleansing according to that commission is only a removal of one group of people from certain geographic areas.
     
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    How many of these experts are walking around in the streets of the US ??
     
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    Doesnt relevent to the definition of ethnic cleansing. But if you concern you can call the UN and ask.
     

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