Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

Okay here is a good one:

If god is supposed to be all good how could he commit ecocide, promote rape (taking captive virgin women as slaves), genocide, kill the innocent (example Sodom and Gomorrah the death of slaves and children) and commit crimes we would consider according the Nuremburg Code acts against civilization?

 

I don't understand your reasoning but No because we can do stuff Caterpillars can't as well so we will count that tit for tat. lol

 

I wonder why God doesn't pal around with people anymore? He did it for centuries. And then, just like that, he stopped when the Persians defeated the Babylonians. Why did he go into a funk that has lasted around 2,500 years?

 

That means that all life forms are gods.

 

Such acts are not crimes as long as the preps win. They become crimes when they lose. Then they can claim victimhood status and play the "woe is me" card.

Don't forget, we cried like babies when the Japanese did a sneak attack on us at Pearl Harbor. We are now plotting to do a sneak attack on Iran.

 

Yes, accepted slavery, and never spoke out against it: http://www.evilbible.com/Slavery.htm
That means he was evil, or at least a lousy teacher of morality. Richard Dawkins, would he accept slavery if he saw it all around him today? See Dawkins is more moral than your Jesus who hates so so much, that he feels JUSTIFIED in sending Mother Teresa to TORTURE if she, say, converted to Buddhism 30 days before she died ("the only way to the father is through me".) He was sick and twisted, and/or just a figment of people's imaginations.

 

Why such a redundant question? All you needed to ask was: Why did God sacrifice His Son Jesus Christ, I am totally confused, I just don't understand it?

It's because God's plan is for you to live with Him in heaven. "For God loved the world so much that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life" (John 3:16). Before Adam and Eve sinned (Genesis3), they had a good relationship with God. Therefore, they were not ashamed to come into God's presence. But after they sinned, their relationship with God changed, and they were ashamed to come into God's physical presence. Sin had separated them and the entire human race-including you-from God. But God did not want sin to keep people from having a relationship with him. So he provided a way in which people could be cleansed of their sins and live with Him in heaven forever. He gave His only Son, Jesus, as the perfect payment for everyone's sins.

Now do you see how loving and caring our heavenly Father is? That was the ultimate expression of love for everyone.

Lastly, He did not change any rules. All of the laws that Moses handed down still stands but now a person has salvation and redemption through our Lord Savior Jesus Christ. If it wasn't for this sacrifice we would all be condemned.

 

If what you say is true wouldn't it had made more sense for Jesus to pop up before the flood? He didn't. Everything was killed. People were the same as before. He finally showed up, got crucified, died, and was resurrected. Now our souls can be saved if we believe in him. However, people are just as bad as they were before. That's a lousy plan for salvation.

 

God's .....

 

I guess you don't understand the very basic concept of the Golden rule so I will help you. Name one law in the old testament having to do with slavery that you think is evil and tell me why.Then tell me how following that law goes against the golden rule.

Even the laws of the old testament governed what men were doing,or going to do anyway. If life put you back into the ancient times and you were a slave from a ruthless owner,say a foreign slave and your master owned and beat you as much as he wanted, is that more evil unchecked or would you rather them having limitations on how hard they could beat you ? You don't like your options,eh ? Well Men were much harder than your civilized mind can conceive.

You have been house broken guy, you have been domesticated and taken out of the wild, and you can thank the Spirit of Love that influenced the change that allows for your criticism of the very love that you criticize..

 

Why does god pick and choose favorites among his believers, meaning why do some "experience" exciting revelations, take part and witness miracles and receive so many of his gifts while others are relegated to living just a ho hum christian life and don't even receive an answer to their prayers while the favored ones get constant answers(wow that is definately a run on sentence)? This was my problem with christianity and it's why I left.

 

You make it sound so wonderful for the "chosen" but it seems to me that suffering brings enlightenment. Would you rather live a ho hum christian life or go through hell like Jesus ? He probably never had a wife, girlfriend, sex, or stuffed his face with gourmet food. Never had a child or computer or a plasma tv.....and then he got to fast and pray his whole short life only to be tortured to death.

But I do believe he got to "experience" exciting revelations. Though I know you aren't talking about Jesus but many people believe only because they went through hell and needed to believe. Not to be confused with a ho hum Christian life.

 

I will never begrudge or belittle anyone who believes in Jesus or any other deity but I have never seen any evidence of Jesus' works except from the same people who seemed to have everything handed to them by god, and no they didn't have a horrible life. They came from good homes with good experiences. So either they're faking all of god's many works, deluded, or god plays favorites. I'm not following anyone who does that.

 

Yeah I do believe you, I didn't detect anything mean spirited or dishonest about your post or anything. I have noticed that some people are rich and have great lives and it seems like God has just blessed them and handed them stuff on a silver platter.. But that isn't experiencing great revelations. I mean, what would you rather do, inherit a billion dollars,great home,great family,Children, no apparent health problems, or would you rather be broke and in debt, having suffered,etc... but given a great enough revelation that you never doubt that God exists again ?

 

Gods can't be killed, they can only "pretend" to be killed, gods can't get stuck in their dead bodies for 3 days, they could only "pretend" to be.. and if you think about it for awhile, you will know what I say is true

if god = jesus, then he did not give up his son, not really, right?

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It's a misconception to veiw God as you have described Him, it's really a false charge. Let's me explain as thorough as I can be, so we can see that not only is this charge false, but there are good reasons we read about God commanding different actions in different situations (personal admonitions vs national interests). When reading the Holy Bible you must first understand the context in which the individual passages are given.

When we look at Old Testament passages such as Joshua 6:17 or Judges 20:43-48, one point we note is that the commands of God are addressed on a national level. Here God is instructing Israel as a forming nation. Christ's command to turn the other cheek and pray for those who persecute you are directed to individuals on how they should deal with other individuals who offend them.

So we must note that trying to draw a comparison between these passages is strained from the outset. They are addressed to two totally different audience types (a political government versus individuals) and two different sets of circumstances (establishing a new nation versus dealing with a personal wrong).
Different Aspect of God's character are not contradictory. In Genesis 15:16, Abram first asks about possessing the land, God tells him that the time is not yet right "for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full." In other words, God was going to give the nations of Canaan additional time to repent and turn from their wicked ways. When they didn't, God chose to send Israel to bring His judgment upon them. (Note: He gave the nations of Canaan over 400 yrs. to repent from their wicked ways)

Although the punishments of God may appear to some as out of character with His mercifulness and love, it is not true that these are contradictory attributes. Justice is necessary to show love to the victims of evil. If God did not punish those who perpetrate evil, we would not only consider Him unrighteous but uncaring as well. When reading some of these isolated instances in the scripture, we are not privy to the extent of their actions and why God feels they should be judged, so we tend to think of the judgment as unfair. But God is God; He is in the position to judge His creation and because of that He doesn't need to justify His actions to us with an explanation why a nation deserves judgment.

Throughout the Bible, God is portrayed as not only loving and long-suffering, but also a righteous judge who will come to punish the unrepentant and the wicked. This is as true in the New as in the Old Testament. The Book of Revelation specifically speaks about God's judgment on the nations and His wholesale destruction of nations. Similarly, the Old Testament highlights instances where God reached out to sinning nations and gave them unusual grace. The Ninevites were extended a chance to repent in the book of Jonah, even though their deeds were wicked. So the character of God remains consistent throughout the Bible.

Although Jesus was God throughout the whole Bible He humbled Himself as a human. "You must have the same attitue that Christ Jesus had. Though He was God, He did not think of equality with God as something to cling to. Instead, He gave up His divine priveleges, He took the humble position of a slave, and was born as a human being. When He appeared in human form, He humbled Himself in obedience to God and died a criminal's death on a cross." Philip. 2:5-8 NLT

As a human the God of the Old Testament became a submissive human servant in the New Testament. Jesus said, "For even the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve others and to give His life as a ransom for many." Mark 10:45 NLT

Yes, the God of the Old Testament is the same God of the New Testament!

 

It's not just wordly wealth that they had, which I'm sure they have had their struggles too, but the visions and works that they were given access too, and the prayers they have had answered. That's the main one that I struggled with. I had asked for big and small works. For guidance and wisdom. But no matter what I never reveived anything for my faith. I had even asked him to work with my shortcomings if it was just me not listening hard enough and I've asked him to at least send someone along with a message of any kind just to let me know both that he really was listening and also to teach me whatever lesson that I needed to hear. I've not seen one result in all my times of praying and believing. That would cause even the most ardent of believers to question him.

I would love to believe in him, I really would but in my opinion a relationship with god is about love and romance of the spirit, but it's hard to love without any kind of sign or evidence of anything in return.

 

I never did like that argument,it serves to down play physical death like it was nothing. The story of Jesus doesn't suggest he was stuck in his body anyway, it suggests that he would be "in the heart of the earth." Good luck figuring that one out..(lol)

If you were to die of lets say, a gun shot wound and they froze your body until medical science caught up and put life back into you. Would you say you never lost your life, or could you ? Would you be stuck in the freezer that whole time ?


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Would you clarify what you mean by visions and works ?

 

Oh my God that is freaking priceless, dude! You win the debate right here. I can't imagine why any of these folks want to change you! LOL

 

Leviticus and Deuteronomy have nothing to do with God's laws. Those were manmade laws to give the Hebrews a separate identity.

 

Well something had to inspire these man made laws,right Margot ?

 

The Babylonian exile was the inspiration... The Jewish leaders didn't want the Jews to assimilate... thats why they have so many laws and purification rituals unique to them.

Look at when they were written.. during and after the Babylonian exile. Deuteronomy was written during the rule of King Josiah to try and unite the people under a central government... the north and south had their own different writings and stories...

 

King Josiah's reforms.

[video=youtube;hRoDp0e_Ixw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRoDp0e_Ixw[/video]

 

Do me the favor please to stop to cry in the name of the Lord. Advent is nearly over and soon is Christmas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZSz13O1EcE