Psychologists call 'traditional masculinity' harmful, face uproar from conservatives

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  1. Wulfschilde

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    I wonder what they think about machismo etc.
     
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    Where are the Village People when you need them the most?
     
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    Psychologists are stupid
     
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    Nature of their business is that have to publish something new to be relevant, that leads to questionable theories.
     
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    A boy wanting to be like his father is not a "negative thing".
    Ever here of a product called, "Baby Alive"? It is the lib/progs wet dream of conditioning boys in this country.

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    Does any normal person want their sons and grandsons playing with little girls dolls?
     
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    Could be interesting. We hand rear orphan joey kangaroos. Desexing of the males is expensive
    and often doesn't work to reduce male aggression. A buck kangaroo can kill you if he thinks you
    are a rival male.
    Just had one rear up at me five minutes ago. Scary.
    We understand of course this is all taught, stereotypical male behavior. We just don't understand
    who is teaching the male joeys this. Maybe it's society.
    We need to get these psychiatrist guys to come out and help us teach male kangaroos that
    masculinity is toxic. Some might say this is sexist talk, that we are the products of nature - but it
    isn't the science we defer to, but fashions of thought.
     
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    This is leftist code for "toxic femininity"
    The Trans People will sort out the feminist -
    you can be a guy in the morning and a gal
    in the afternoon. Look forward to that.
     
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    The is SUPER SEXISM.
    One minute we see women in tattered shorts, tattoos, short cropped hair, boots, cigarette in
    the mouth and wearing a singlet - and then we see boys forced into dresses.
     
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    Satan hates human beings and has a plan for human kinds destruction. This type od psychology is part of it.
     
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    Would you like to quote where I said a boy wanting to be like his father was a bad thing.

    Now of course if the father was a bad influence I am sure even his mother would not like him to be like him. ;)

    People really should read what this is about before coming out with their fetishes.
     
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    You said...

    Perhaps you could have chosen your words more carefully. Others might get the wrong idea.
     
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    I do not.

    Is that a typo on the box? I do not think it’s “son” but “sound”
     
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    Yes, the hate is in. My theory is that because many forms of sex between consenting adults is strictly prohibited in the United States, majority of men cannot get enough sex to suppress their testosterone level, as a result some of them shoot people in public places.
     
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    My theory is that you are responsible for your actions no matter whats going on with your body.
     
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    I don't know about psychologists but I do know what a lot of political scientists think.

    Actual Machismo is one of the most destructive and dysfunctional parts of Latin American culture there is, the main reason that most South and Central American "Republics" have been a series of badly governed dictatorships with little to no freedom or equality and high levels of violence and lawlessness throughout their unfortunate histories. That is not just my opinion, study the word "Caudillo" and ruminate on its origin and sad influence

    The is nothing inherently wrong about masculinity or femininity, in moderation and their place, but letting any individual part of your personality determine or even influence all of your behavior is the very definition of neuroses at the least. You can be a macho man or a girly girl but it should be because that is who you are, not the other way around.
     
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    What is wrong is feminine men and mascul3 women.
     
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    Soo...you want we should have the little boy beating the doll up, or what? Why shouldn't little boys play at being loving and caring fathers?

    Girls do play with "action figures' and have for some time now, should that be forbidden?
     
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    Your gender should enhance who you are, not limit it.
     
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    'Others' who project their banal ideas onto others. I made clear this boy is not hateful. He does not hate women. He is not afraid to be weak at times. I would see him rather than developing the negative characteristics which you appear to support and which your Psychology experts warn pressure
    to develop the more positive characteristics of traditional masculinity which the report also talks of such as
    - those are the ones my young grandson shows much more signs of developing.

    What I was talking about was simply that at a very early age he came to the conclusion that being a boy he would be like his father. His father became a role model for him. The report is suggesting people stop trying to make boys develop
    as they have found this leads to
    source link in OP.

    I am surprised you appear to want boys to be conditioned to act in ways which lead to a poor outcome.
     
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    Stay within your boundaries. We want men to be women, women to be men,
    children to be adults and adults are increasingly suffering from the Peter Pan
    syndrome - becoming children.
    Nothing good comes out of social engineering.
     
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    Would you care to elaborate?
     
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    speak for yourself. You want, not we want.
     
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    Here's the problem. What YOU want (but I don't) ultimately could prevail.
    I then have to live with the consequences.
    What feminist said that it's okay for "some women" to marry and have kids
    but if "every woman" did that the feminist movement would die?
    Well, girls wanting to have kids find themselves increasingly ridiculed. We
    get our kids from little brown women now, or we suffer the problem of a
    collapsing birthrate - effecting pensions, roads, hospitals etc..
    Thus a feminist's "right" ultimately becomes mine (and everyone else's)
    "problem."
     
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    You do not want a drop in suicide and violence from men. You want boys to continue to be pressurised into being afraid when they feel weak, into misogyny and into violence.

    You do not want boys to be brought up to be psychologically healthy and able to lead productive lives. That is what you are saying. That is what the report is about.
     
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    We just don't want decerebrate liberals and feminazi's to dictate and/or define what and how a man should be. They wouldn't know anyway.
     

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