Putin Accuses United States of Damaging World Order

http://consortiumnews.com/2014/10/25/treating-putin-like-a-lunatic/

By Robert Parry

When reading the New York Times on many foreign policy issues, it doesn’t take a savant to figure out what the newspaper’s bias is. Anything, for instance, relating to Russian President Vladimir Putin drips of contempt and hostility.

Rather than offer the Times’ readers an objective or even slightly fair-minded account of Putin’s remarks, we are fed a steady diet of highly prejudicial language, such as we find in Saturday’s article about Putin’s comments at a conference in which he noted U.S. contributions to chaos in countries, such as Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and Ukraine.

That Putin is correct appears almost irrelevant to the Times, which simply writes that Putin “unleashed perhaps his strongest diatribe against the United States yet” with his goal “to sell Moscow’s view that American meddling has sparked most of the world’s recent crises.”

Rather than address the merits of Putin’s critique, the Times’ article by Neil MacFarquhar uncritically cites the “group think” of Official Washington: “Russia is often accused of provoking the crisis in Ukraine by annexing Crimea, and of prolonging the agony in Syria by helping to crush a popular uprising against President Bashar al-Assad, Moscow’s last major Arab ally. Some analysts have suggested that Mr. Putin seeks to restore the lost power and influence of the Soviet Union, or even the Russian Empire, in a bid to prolong his own rule.”

Yes, “some analysts” can be cited to support nearly any claim no matter how wrongheaded, or you can use the passive tense – “is often accused” – to present any charge no matter how unfair. But a more realistic summary of the various crises afflicting the world would note that Putin is correct when he describes past U.S. backing for various extremists, from Islamic fundamentalists in the Middle East and Central Asia to neo-Nazis in Ukraine.

For example, during the 1980s, the Reagan administration consciously encouraged Islamic fundamentalism as a strategy to cause trouble for “atheistic communism” in Afghanistan and in the Muslim provinces of the Soviet Union.

To overthrow a Soviet-backed government in Afghanistan, the CIA and its Saudi collaborators financed the mujahedeen “holy warriors” who counted among their supporters Saudi extremist Osama bin Laden. Some of those Islamists later blended into the Taliban and al-Qaeda with dire consequences for the United States on Sept. 11, 2001.

By invading Iraq in 2003, President George W. Bush toppled a secular dictator, Saddam Hussein, but saw him replaced by what amounted to a Shiite theocracy which pushed Iraq’s Sunni minority into the arms of “Al-Qaeda in Iraq,” which has since rebranded itself as the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria or simply the Islamic State. Those extremists now control large swaths of Iraq and Syria and have massacred religious minorities and Western hostages, prompting another U.S. military intervention.

Obama’s Interventions

In Libya in 2011, President Barack Obama acquiesced to demands from “liberal interventionists” in his administration and authorized an air war to overthrow another secular autocrat, Muammar Gaddafi, whose ouster and murder have sent Libya spiraling into political chaos amid warring Islamist militias. It turns out Gaddafi was not wrong when he warned of Islamist terrorists operating around Benghazi.

Similarly, Official Washington’s embrace of protests and violence aimed at removing another secular Arab leader, Syria’s Bashar al-Assad, contributed to the bloody civil war that has devastated that country and created fertile ground for the Islamic State and the Nusra Front, the official al-Qaeda affiliate.

Though Obama balked at demands from neocons and “liberal interventionists” that he launch an air war against the Syrian military in 2013, he did authorize secret shipments of weapons and training for the supposedly “moderate” Syrian rebels who have generally sided with Islamist fighters affiliated with al-Qaeda and the Islamic State.

Many of these same neocons and “liberal interventionists” have been eager to ratchet up the confrontation with Iran over its nuclear program, including neocon dreams to “bomb, bomb, bomb Iran,” also a desire of hardliners in Israel.

In some of these crises, one of the few international leaders who has cooperated with Obama to tamp down tensions has been Putin, who helped negotiate conflict-avoiding agreements with Syria and Iran. But those peaceful interventions made Putin an inviting target for the neocons who began in fall 2013 arranging a coup d’etat in Ukraine on Russia’s border.

As Obama and Putin each paid too little attention to these maneuvers, neocons such as National Endowment for Democracy president Carl Gershman, Sen. John McCain, R-Arizona, and Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs Victoria Nuland went to work on the Ukrainian coup.

However to actually overthrow Ukraine’s elected President Viktor Yanukovych, the coup makers had to collaborate with neo-Nazi militias which were organized in western Ukraine and dispatched to Kiev where they provided the muscle for the Maidan uprising. Neo-Nazi leaders were given several ministries in the new government, and neo-Nazi militants were incorporated into the National Guard and “volunteer” militias dispatched to crush the ethnic Russian resistance in the east.

Putin for the Status Quo

The underlying reality of the Ukraine crisis was that Putin actually supported the country’s status quo, i.e. maintaining the elected president and the constitutional process. It was the United States along with the European Union that sought to topple the existing system and pull Ukraine from Russia’s orbit into the West’s.

Whatever one thinks about the merits of that change, it is factually wrong to accuse Putin of initiating the Ukraine crisis or to extrapolate from Official Washington’s false conventional wisdom and conclude that Putin is a new Hitler, an aggressor seeking to reestablish the Soviet Union or the Russian Empire.

But the Times and other major U.S. news outlets have wedded themselves to that propaganda theme and now cannot deviate from it. So, when Putin states the obvious –that the U.S. has meddled in the affairs of other nations and that Russia did not pick the fight over Ukraine – his comments must be treated like the ravings of a lunatic unleashing some “diatribe.”

Among Putin’s ranting was his observation, according to the Times article, that “the United States supports ‘dubious’ groups ranging from ‘open neo-fascists to Islamic radicals.’

“‘Why do they support such people,’ he asked the annual gathering known as the Valdai Club, which met this year in the southern resort town of Sochi. ‘They do this because they decide to use them as instruments along the way in achieving their goals, but then burn their fingers and recoil.’

“The goal of the United States, he said, was to try to create a unipolar world in which American interests went unchallenged. …

“Mr. Putin … specifically denied trying to restore the Russian Empire. He argued Russia was compelled to intervene in Ukraine because that country was in the midst of a ‘civilized dialogue’ over its political future when the West staged a coup to oust the president last February, pushing the country into chaos and civil war.

“‘We did not start this,’ he said. ‘Statements that Russia is trying to reinstate some sort of empire, that it is encroaching on the sovereignty of its neighbors, are groundless.’”

Of course, all the “smart people” of Official Washington know how to react to such statements from Putin, with a snicker and a roll of the eyes. After all, they’ve been reading the narratives of these crises as fictionalized by the New York Times, the Washington Post, etc.

Rationality and realism seem to have lost any place in the workings of the mainstream U.S. news media.

 

And Washington attempts to remain relevant as it prints more dollars, even when nobody wants them.

 

Let's not forget that he has demonized and marginalized homosexuals to the point of looking the other way when they are terrorized by Russia's version of skinheads. He is a piece of (*)(*)(*)(*)!

 

Putin made his own mess, trying to stop using the dollar, his mess with Ukraine....

 

Very funny. You look at the profitability of shale oil in the US. Russia, even if the price of oil will be $ 50, even $ 35, will have a profit. But what will happen to the American oil production? Her cost of goods sold - about $ 80. And you're scaring Russia falling oil prices? Very funny.

 

Opinion of the UN is no longer relevant. After the United States to spit on this view and began to bomb Yugoslavia. UN goes like "League of Nations".
All countries recognize the independence of the "NovoRussia". Because so decree the winner in a future major war. Victory, as all intelligent people know - Russia. Because:
1. This is fairness.
2. Despite some losses in tactics that sometimes - in the end Russia always wins!
3. US despite the fact that sometimes can win tactically - eventually always lose the war. (exception annexation Texas and California)
The US can only win if the fight on the side of Russia. Everything! Myself have not won a single war with a worthy opponent. Only fighting with obviously weak opponent. Such as Panama.

For example do you know how to actually Americans captured the Aleutian Islands in 1942? I'll tell you. Because in the US do not write books about this heroic operation.
The Japanese captured the two islands in the Aleutian Islands after Pearl Harbor, as a single operation in the battle of Midway. Island with a plurality of mountains and ice. At one lived 60 Aborigines in another 40. Desert. The Americans did not know the month that the Japanese there.
How to know - started bombing day and night, and plan how to get back. The Japanese at that time lost in Midway, lost a lot of aircraft carriers and decided that the forces needed elsewhere. Night for an hour and evacuated 5,000 soldiers left.
At this time, the valiant B-17 and B-24 continued to bomb the island. Warships of 80 miles distance - guns day and night. Bombing, of course, from a great height - to flak lacking. Lasted a month. Finally, three thousand marines ready to disembark. As in the D-Day, bombed Coast seriously, as shot from the ship's batteries. Landed. A pair of soldiers stepped on mines. Decided that the artillery Japanese. Began to shoot. Others landed on the other side, too, began to shoot in the fog. Fighting began. All summoned support. Went slowly forward ...
All that was on the island, this six hungry dogs abandoned by the Japanese. Was lost 75 men killed and wounded, plus many aircraft accidents.
This is a historic touch to American military power.

 

Try to keep up. That deal Kerry made with the Saudis ran out 3 days ago. Washington are losing this one.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-...ises-market-supply-cut-announcement-oil-jumps


"Saudi Arabia, it appears, had enough of shooting itself in the foot for its American 'partners', and has admitted for the first time that it slashed supply in September. As Bloomberg reports, OPEC’s biggest producer cut supply to mkt by 328k b/d in September to 9.36m b/d, from 9.688m b/d in August, according to a person with knowledge of Saudi Arabia’s oil policy. Prices in September were flat admit this supply cut which suggests along with the build in EIA inventories seen yesterday that Saudi Arabia may have also been forced by global demand weakness to cut supply through October also."

Now to explain to you why demand is weak. No one is driving to work any more in America. How do you equate that into a lose for Russia?

 

The UN wasn't created till 1942. Novorossiya was created in 1764. "The term “Novorossiya” was coined in 1764 when the first Novorossiysk Governorate was created in the territories of New Serbia and New Sloboda, in what is today the Kirovohrad Oblast. As a military district, the governorate played a key role in the Russo-Turkish war, which allowed Russia to expand southwards by annexing the Northern Black Sea cost and the Caucasus, as well as turning the Crimean Khanate into a Russian satellite state. The eventual colonization of the lands snatched from the Ottomans by the Russians turned Novorossiya into a majority Russophone region stretching from the Donets to the Dniester rivers. "It was declared on 22 May 2014 and agreements were signed between the leaders of the two self-proclaimed republics on 24 May.[3][6] On 24 June, leaders from both groups' "Supreme Soviet" declared the merger of their constitutions, and the creation of Novorossiya as a confederal "Union of People's Republics"

 

You have been easily fooled again. Putin was very clear about no criminalization of homosexual activity, only a ban on gay propaganda among underage minors. Leave the kids alone or gays will be labeled as petaphile and you will lose ground in the eyes of the public.
Might want to read the actual transcripts instead of getting your info from "Liberals for Anything that Feels Good Weekly"

 

USA suffocating from lack of money and resources, the US zone of influence rapidly cringes as "shagreen" ...
As an example: Voting in the UN General Assembly about the Crimea has been "fifty-fifty", but even then not in favor of the US, and three days ago, a similar vote at UNESCO, on the same subject, Fashington lost with a score of 1: 3. ..and it's only six months ....
The assets of the United States, remains doubtful "six" of the G7, and the remaining allies flee from the US as the devil from holy water ... to lose Turkey, Egypt. Saudi Arabia has rushed in the Islamic bank for recycle petrodollars ... no money to maintain afloat "sacred cow" - Israel, China, after the failed coup attempt in Hong Kong openly in opposition., India destroyed most sharpened tool of colonization the world as the WTO. ..
EU: mortally wounded Scotland - United Kingdom, Policy "austerity"strangled France, Germany, yet sluggish squeaks, but is ready to "stand on its hind legs" ...
So that Putin's speech was not anti-American, and was not loud words. This is warning for US about readiness of Russia to a major war and were also announced for ways to minimize the consequences of the war and the collapse of the US ...
Simply put ... Putin offered the US quietly and calmly to die in a reasonable time, and in the case of sudden convulsions of the dying body
have insurance funds ...
Real politician ... nothing personal ...

 

I have been in Kazakhstan. This is not like Pakistan or Iraq. Do you like it, or not, but during Communist period and Russian influence the country became secularized and now it is free from Islamist domination. Women in miniskirts, no burkas, there is a ballet school for girls in Almaty. Remember Medeo? There is Academy of Sciences in Kazakhstan and revival of national culture starting from pre Muslim period of history. There is no animosity against Russians or western foreigners. However, there is a certain anti American sentiment, which I did not quite understand. Of course, Islamist-Jihadist ideology is creeping and it is smoldering in some corners of the society. This is what potentially can be used to destroy this country and people in Kazakhstan are watching news from Iraq, Syria and Iran. May be they learned something important.

 

Bull (*)(*)(*)(*)...the shirtless wonder dictator spread his own brand of self-serving propaganda knowing full well that it would ignite and inspire more hatred towards gays. It is never a surprise when a radcal right winger sides with Vlad...

 

I am no more interested in right wing, neo con oligarchies than I am left wing, stereo typing *******s. Like I suggested to you before "Why don't you go read a transcript" of what the man said instead of jumping directly into an emotional, self pity fueled frenzy.

Just a heads up The NYT's is the newspaper who has to keep printing "page 27, section D retractions on the Ukrainian/Russian situation. How many tims do they have to get it wrong before you realize they aren't a credible source of information.
http://consortiumnews.com/2014/05/04/another-nyt-sort-of-retraction-on-ukraine/

 

I would like to take this time and opportunity to ask chief magistrates of foreign States, to simply enjoin our federal Congress in more faithfully executing those social Powers which are delegated to them by the People.

We have a Commerce Clause not any form of common offense or general warfare clause.

States, via statism, simply have more capital to work with, under our US form of Capitalism.

 

yes, we know that Putin and his Russian Imperialists spit on the UN and international law.

 

I don't mind stating that political animals should be "better" than other loyal subjects of the Animal Kingdom who only know might makes right.

 

San Francisco belongs to America. The folks who live in San Francisco don't have a right to decide one day they're going to leave America, and take the land they're sitting on with them.



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Taxpayer, it is OK with San Francisco, because it is populated by the same Americans. The worst thing may happen, if Mexico would have a better life and San Francisco Hispanic majority would decide to break away and join Mexico. This would become close to what is in Ukraine. A part of Ukrainian population thinks that joining EU will bring good and easy life and they are mad with Putin for he does not want to supply them with gas free of charge. At the same time, the other part hates Bandera and Nationalists ideology and would rather join Russia and this is the cause of the civil war. A big difference fro San Francisco.

 

Putin is correct at this and this is how his position is very strong and this is why he is so much hated in America and EU.

 

There is no death penalty in Russia. Just for your information.

 

no, the govt. just lets the mafia or Dioxin poisoning do it.

 

The media has, many times discussed Obama's passed as a former community organizer.They also talked of his mother, his upbringing, etc.

Did you have a point how his being a community organizer is relevant to what Putin said?

Putin is in one sense no different than Obama. Both run countries that implement foreign policies they believe in their best interests/

It is absurd for Putin to suggest Obama tries to impose US foreign policy on the world but pretend he does not.

 

Why have an official death penalty when all you have to do is have the "dissenter" murdered by your thugs or dragged off to the gulag?

 

Therefore you need to prepare yourself physically. For the upcoming challenges. (Putin - the master of judo) My recommendations: 79-32 Metropolitan Ave. Call. You can help. (71 894-1271.

 

I'm confused, are you refering to me as "the left"? lol. Anywayzzzz, Putin throws tantrums all the time because of the choke-hold sanctions.