Putin Accuses United States of Damaging World Order

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  1. freemarket

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    What is wrong in denying against nature? The Bible, Koran and other major world religions forbid homosexuality. You can not love plague bacteria, Ebola and other dangerous viruses. The spread of these bacteria leads to the extinction of mankind. Promotion of homosexuality in the same leads to this.
     
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    You tell me horrible things, so I start to doubt, do I really live in Russia?

    Do not read "The New York Times" at night, it contributes to a nightmare.
     
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    Actually being Russian doesn't give you any extra insight on the matter. You people are so messed up you actually WANT to be brainwashed. You crave it. It's the only way you people know.
     
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    Folks, we are living in what basically is George Orwells vision of the future. Our so called news is a bit of real news, but it is also filled with pure propaganda. Lies are fed to the American public in a regular fashion, and it covers up what America is, and what my country is doing. We no longer have journalists, we have an illusion of journalists. We no longer have a real deal news, we have propaganda. News stories are even bought and paid for by gov'ts such as Bahrain, where American media has not covered the human rights abuses being committed by that gov't in Bahrain, simply because the US has a military base there that will be needed in our future war with Iran. You cannot trust any news coverage in regards to Iran, for it's role is to keep americans agreeable to that future war on Iran. Amber Lyon, that beautiful reporter that was fired from CNN awhile ago spilled the beans on how corporations and even other nations buy stories, and dictate what will be revealed, and what will be hidden. She isn't the only reporter that has suffered such a fate.

    And so, if you are ignorant enough to trust anything you hear in MSM, and this definetly includes FOX, especially FOX, you should get yourself a new brain, or kill the one you have, for it's worthless.

    If you control information, you control everything that matters in a democracy or a republic. In fact, if information is controlled, you actually do not have any form of a democratic gov't.

    My question is, why do you remain brain dead? Why do you trust our Ministry of Information? Why do you trust the gov't and keep electing the same men time and time again, or the same party time and time again? Is this just more hard evidence of americans being brain dead? I fear for my country, which means I fear for the American people. Yet most americans just don't seem to give a pile of fecal matter. Is the partisanship, the tribalism of the left and the right, that division which fueled with a constant supply of gas, from the two political parties, from MSM, is that making us incapable of actually seeing the reality of this non reality?

    If you trust anything DC or MSM says about Putin, about Iran, about almost anything, you are the biggest chump, and hardly any more intelligent than a bright eyed chimp. When will we wake up? What is it gonna take to wake americans, who are hard working, mostly people with ethical values to see what is actually going on? What?

    And its not like the evidence for this, the hard proof is not out there, for it is. Yet you cannot find it in this fake journalism of MSM, and you will not find it in MSM. You really have to expend time finding it. It almost seems many of us just do not want to know. Just do not disturb my superficial entertainment, my daily escapes from the brutal reality of America circa 2014, my silly beliefs in right wing or left wing ideology, so that I do not have to face the hard reality of what we have become as a nation, with corrupt institutions, being ruled over by who has always tried to rule humanity. A scant few self interested men who have no sense of morality, no sense of ethics and see themselves as amoral with no idea of what social responsibility is, to neither their fellow dirtied, petty, not important American people, nor to any other person on this earth.
     
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    ^^^^^^^
    The perfect example of how the right wing in this country is so Putinesque and lovin' them some dictator.

    Your stance has been obliterated so many times when argued/debated on forums that to do so again would bore me to tears. The anti-science bible thumper crowd leaves me zoned out...nothing personal, but...have a nice day.
     
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    Destroyer isn't American

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    Switch the word America with Russian and you'd be closer to right.
     
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    Thanks you have opened my eyes at last. I now shall always listen to my big white brother.
     
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    This is true. My dad lives in an area of Brooklyn that has a large population of Russsian immigrants...many of them subscribe to Fox Noise because propaganda is all they understand and relate to. I hear that many in Russia are nostalgic for Stalin, which might expalin why many do not take issue with president for life Putin.
     
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    Liar. It's impossible for Russian eyes to be opened.

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    Yeah I don't know about the Fox News thing. But everything else is spot on.
     
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    See how easy it is to confuse our homegrown right wing with actual native Putin supporters? Sad.
     
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    Here is the full transcript of his speech. I watched it on RT and enjoyed the question/answer time just as much. .
    http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2014/10/putins-speech-at-valdai-club-full.html
     
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    Yes, people who are able to think on their own are not limited to one country like the well recognizable mouth breathing, notorious sloped forehead, elongated arms of the American left. Thanks.
     
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    We are also living in an age where information is available to anyone with a curious mind. The truth is out there, readily available, but Americans have become too lazy to think. This quality is more dangerous than any politician's schemes. With a truly informed people, these schemes cannot be initiated. Our laziness is our undoing and is dangerous to the world. In being ignorant, we are allowing our republic to be usurped.

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    An informed citizenry is the only true repository of the public will …. The People cannot be safe without information. When the press is free, and every man is able to read, all is safe.

    THOMAS JEFFERSON

     
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    What to do? This is our anatomy. We see everything even with eyes closed.
     
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    Trust me, it's true. In my conversations with various transplants from Russia, it is apparent that they are parroting Fox talking points. There is also a paranoia that has deep roots, so the profile fits in nicely with the (*)(*)(*)(*) that Fox spews.
     
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    Sure they hurt everyone but Washington. They love when a plan comes together. The difference is that Russians acclimated quickly while Europe is "left in the cold".
     
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    Of course not, then Kosovo would have a say in Washington and be subsidized accordingly. It's an American colony...as is Ukraine.
     
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    All US MSM is the same. You will not get the truth from any of them. Diversify your news sources to those not controlled by the oligarchs if you would like to know what is actually going on in the world.
     
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    Russia, which is just a giant 3rd world country, will suffer grave consequences for their actions. These sanctions will tear them apart. The Russian propaganda machine will say otherwise, but as the Australian leader said "Putin, we're not stupid".
     
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    Unless you live in places like China, North Korea, Iran, RUSSIA. You know, countries that actually censors any source of information they consider "dissenters", such as foreign news groups and information websites.
     
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    Jeanette do you know how many times I have posted the definitions of "Annex" and "referendum"? We have some very slow learners here.
     
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    The stupidity. The utter stupidity. Colonies of the US huh?
     
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    Why trust anyone that sees the whole world in a left/right parochial paradigm? The world is a bit more complex and, try as you might, it just doesn't fit into your little bubble.
     

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