Putin - another one bites the dust

Free Speech. Why the wish to silence him? If there is a problem in Chechnya have him talk it out with the Chechnya like the british and the irish.

 

You are a brave man. Aren't you afraid that Putin will kill you soon? And your name will be added to the Wikipedia page. I thought Litwin was banned, but in fact Putin killed him. Maybe Poohbear is dead too and his webghost is communicates with us.

 

You are talking nonsense. The plane was shot down by a Russian Separatists in Ukraine. The claim that Putin directed this action is nonsense. The plane never should have been in that airspace - it was mistaken for a Ukrainian military aircraft. Just like what happened in Iran -and just like what happened to us - mistaken identity.

 

It could be a case of a poor translation, but one comment about the man found with his throat slashed borders on the comical.

From the article:

"A Belgian law-enforcement official familiar with the case refused to go on the record but suggested that Belgian authorities found the entire situation very suspicious."

 

Where is the reference to Putin or Russia?

 

You are correct. But Putin is involved because he started that Ukrainian
war; gave full military support for the "separatists" and refuses to co-operate
with the inquiry.

 

I am still here - but watching the windows.

 

I hope the window is armored.

 

The Chechnyans are Chechnyans, and they have their own methods - and Ramzan Kadyrov has been quite successful at keeping the peace in Chechnya - and believe me, he has had quite a few shoot outs in Dagestan with terrorists coming in from the Gulf states.

If you really want to talk about assassinations, then maybe you should take a look at Ukraine? The list of opposing politicians that have jumped out of windows to commit suicide is quite impressive - not to mention all the reporters that have been killed.

As for the British, I don't know of them ever talking things out. From what I noticed, their specialty has always been false flag poisonings to demonize Putin and false flag chemical attacks to demonize Assad. Their other specialty is using brainwashing techniques and instilling the lies in people's minds by using terms like: 'We believe so', or 'it appears to be', etc. They call it their: "Strategic Ambiguity" Foreign Policy


Our Ode To Britain's Strategic Ambiguity Foreign Policy

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I'm singing now a wondrous song
To tell the world that right is wrong
and what you thought was naught before
was just a lie that you had bought -
from us - Jeannette
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It wasn't shot down by separatists, it was shot down by Ukraine because they thought it was the plane Vladimir Putin was on. Malaysia, the country that owns the airplane refused to accept the findings since the Netherlands ignored most of the evidence to reach the conclusion they wanted.

 

Putin is not involved on the basis of any of those things. Supporting an insurgency does not necessarily make one responsible for everything that insurgency does. I do agree that in some cases there is responsibility - depends on the situation.

You have to be more specific about what Putin did not co-operate in - again does not mean involvement. We do the same thing - deny deny deny.

If supporting an insurgency is the bar for guilt - How many years should Obama and Hillary get for leading a global effort to arm, support and supply a radical Islamist proxy army in Syria - one led by Al Qaeda and ISIS ?

 

That's possible too - point being - even going with the mainline Establishment narrative his claim was nonsense.

 

Oh no, Putin is killing our sweet Al Nusra terrorists. Doesn't he know that they're our friends?

Poor, poor Erdogan, he must be having a freak out. How dare the Syrians take back his Idlib?

They say that wicked birds will fly,
together up in yonder sky.​

But not the true, for fate has shown
that justice likes to fly alone - Jeannette

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Crimea and Donbass rebelled from the illegal junta because they had no representation in Ukraine's government after the coup.

We rebelled and freed ourselves from the British king because the colonies had no representation in the British government.

You can't condemn the one without condemning the other as well. So tell me, which one is it? Should people have representation, or shouldn't they?

 

So, can these regions return to the Ukraine?
Could some of these "separatists" be manipulated by Russia?
Some Ukrainians look Westward to Europe and some look to Russia/Soviet - which are you?
People in England and America during Independence could hold opposing opinions without
being killed - is this so for the journalists, bloggers and opposition leaders in Ukraine/Crimea/Donbass?
If we can simply change the status quo concerning Crimea, can we all do it with every border in the world?

 

Frankly I believe the news about Iran admitting it shot down a Ukrainian plane is false news.
This plane was brought down by Mossad or the Americans. They thought Putin was on board.

 

Why would Putin be heading for Ukraine? As for Mossad, well they did endanger an airliner from Iraq last week, so it wouldn't be unusual for them. Anything I guess to start a war with Iran.

 

I think the Iraq plane was in Syria - correct me if I am wrong. Seems that Syria could have
shot down (again) a civilian airliner in its attempt to shoot down a Israeli missile or jet. But
here a big problem is there are a lot of planes in the air at any time, at all times of the day,
and Israel has been going after mostly Iranian facilities/agents/munitions within Syria.

 

Why would Russia have to manipulate the Russian population in Ukraine? That's like saying China is manipulating the American people to side with the US.

The half that was always part of Russia leans towards Russia, and the part that was under Poland and then Austria turns towards Europe. There is no definite demarcation line between the two groups, and this is why Putin told Donesk and Lugansk that they couldn't be incorporated into the Federation like Crimea. He wouldn't know where to draw the line, and that the further west one goes, the more they want to be with Ukraine.

Not in Kiev. They're hated by the Russians for committing atrocities and by the Hungarians and Russyns as well.

It's became legal to hold a referendum and declare independence when Kosovo broke away from Serbia.

 

Israel knows the time a passenger plane enters and leaves an airfield. If they want to hit the Iranian facilities, they shouldn't do it when civilian planes are coming or leaving because they know the missiles will activate the Syrian air defenses and they might hit the plane.. According to RT, this is not the first time they have done that.

Frankly I think Netanyahu is cracking up, because he's itching for a war and it's not going to be pleasant for anyone - including Israel.

 

Why is it that it's Israel 'itching for war" and not the people firing missiles at her?
I mean, doesn't make sense, does it?

 

Did you see how many civilians were killed in Raqqa ? Civilians get killed in war - but that does not make it terrorism.

In any case you have things backwards. Putin was fighting terrorists in Syria - Al Qaeda - ISIS and other Islamist Jihadist group of the same ilk,

 

I thought we were talking about Chechna? What does the Ukraine have to do with free speech in Chechnya. There are horrible people and horrible actions all over the world. My understanding is that the majority of the people there rather have the region be totally independent of Russia.

 

I'm sure the American NGO's are doing their utmost to split Chechnya up with Russia, and that the jihadists are doing their upmost to draw young Chechnyans into their ranks, so your understanding of Chechnya is probably wrong.

The first video below was a thank you to Vladimir Putin for what he did for Chechnya. The second video is a call by Kadyrov for the Chechnyans to pack up their bags and fight for Russia. It was a fake call, but the men didn't know that. He did it to show the Russian people their gratitude and love for Mother Russia.

Since then, the Chechnyans have proven their loyalty, first by fighting as volunteers in Ukraine since the Russian army couldn't legally enter Ukraine. And second by serving as guards for the deconfliction zones in Syria. Being Sunni's, they could be trusted by the locals.

If you fast forward to 3:50 on the second video you can see Kadyrov speak. It's very informative since he tells what was going on in Chechnya. He also mentions that Vladimir Putin went against the advice of his own Generals when he trusted the Imam - who I believe was Kadyrov's father or uncle.



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You mean Putin killed Litwin? Oh no not another one?

Those voices, those voices
they keep telling me:
"Fear Putin they say
for what you can't see".

Is that him up there!
Oh no he's down here.
My God I think he's everywhere.
Aghhh! - Jeannette

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