Putin - another one bites the dust

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  1. zoom_copter66

    zoom_copter66 Well-Known Member

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    @Poohbear.....what's "vicious" about the Russki mindset is that it harbors a deep seated "inferiority complex"!! They'll never measure up to a western mindset, or way of life. They're forever mired in the own misery.
     
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    Interesting observation. And in some ways this could apply to the hard left in Western societies today.
    But the terrifying thing is that Russia
    1 - is a huge nuclear power
    2 - its economy essentially relies upon fossil fuels that we weaning ourselves off.

    And if oil is $20 a barrel then we might see some interesting dynamics, to put it mildly, between the Arab
    states (oil producers) and Russia vis-a-vis the West and Israel..

    I have long had a sympathy towards Russia because of the way it has been repeatedly invaded by the
    West. But I don't know now - how many nations invaded Poland for instance? And how many nations
    has Russia invaded?
     
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    Do tributes count? Because the Russian colonization of Siberia and conquest of its indigenous peoples has been compared to European colonization of the Americas and its natives, with similar negative impacts on the natives and the appropriation of their land.

    In the later part of the colonization, 90% of the Kamchadals and half of the Vogules were killed from the eighteenth to nineteenth centuries and the rapid genocide of the indigenous population led to entire ethnic groups being entirely wiped out, with around 12 exterminated groups which could be named by Nikolai Iadrintsev as of 1882. Much of the slaughter was brought on by the fur trade.
     
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    Yeah....has a nuke arsenal.....it's questionable how many work or are accurate.

    Russia's only claim to "fame" is it's nukes. Conventional forces are in large part laughable.

    20$ a barrel oil. Not impossible. Arab states may absorb it. Russia on the other hand may further break apart. Putinka &Co won't feel much pain.....average Russki will resort back to chewing their kneecaps.....they've done it before.


    I've no sympathy for the Asiatic fiefdom what is the RF. Gut it with a knife, let the bitch bleed a slow, painful, agonizing death.
     
  5. Jeannette

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    It's easy to discern who the invaders were in the past when you consider that the Russyns and Ruthenians ended up under the Pope, and yet the Western Europeans never fell under Moscow or Constantinople - but remained under their own Bishop in Rome.

    When the Russians needed land they could always go East, but whenever the Europeans needed land and tried to go East they were stopped by Russia - thus the resentment. If the Western Europeans were not the invaders, then why is it that the Ruthenians and Russyns have fallen under the Pope - when originally all the Russian people were under the Kiev and later the Moscow Patriarch/Bishop?


    Things changed with the Reformation and the discovery of lands in the West. Many Tsars grew up in Prussia and married German princesses - yet the embedded animosity in the population towards Russia didn't change. Poland still has its dreams of restoring its Polish/Lithuanian empire; Germany still wants to lord it over Europe; Turkey wants to re- enslave the Middle East and Balkans, and Russia wants all the 'Rus' to be back under Moscow the way it was before the Mongol invasion. Things change; yet they never change.

    As for Russia becoming an economic power, I don't think it can because its population is too small - and frankly I don't think they want to. What they want is to be self sufficient - which they are as well as to secure all their borders - thus their military. Also they want to raise their people's standard of living.
     
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    Was It the fur trade, or did it have to do with Islam? The Turks do not call themselves the 'sword of Islam' for no reason. I know the Russians fought with the Circassians who were originally Christians that had converted to Islam - which means there had to have been an incursion of Turks into Russia.

    The Sultan did invite the Circassians into Turkey to escape the Russians, and they ended up in the slave markets of Istanbul - which is odd since they were Muslim and not Christians. But the Circassian women were known for their looks. I guess nothing matters when people are hungry and forced to sell their children - or when a buck is to be made by the slave dealers.


    The Russians fought quite a few wars against the Turks, since they considered themselves the protector of the Orthodox Christians in the same way the French considered themselves the protectors of Catholics.

    If the tribes that were decimated were anything like some of our Indian tribes, or if they sided with the Turks and fought the Russians, that would explain their demise. Yet today, there are 123 different languages spoken in Russia - so not everyone was killed off.

     
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    I know that Orthodox Saints had converted much of the native populations in Russia's Far East as well as the Aleutians and Alaska. Here's something on the Kamchadals:

    "...The Kamchadals are native people of Kamchatka, Russia. The name Kamchadal was applied to the descendants of the local Siberians and aboriginal peoples, who assimilated with the Russians. These descendants of the mix-blooded Russian settlers in 18th-19th century are called Kamchadals these days. The Kamchadals speak Russian with a touch of local dialects of the aboriginal languages of Kamchatka. The Kamchadals are engaged in fur trading, fishing, market gardening and dairy farming, and are of the Russian Orthodox faith..."
    Here's something on the Mansi people who were formerly called Voguls. They have been part of the Russian state since the 16th century and have assimilated quite a bit, so today there are very few. I also read that many ethnicities in the Russian Federation prefer to state their children's ethnicity as being Russian on their birth certificates rather than their own. Half the Voguls are Orthodox and the others practice shamanism.

    "...The Mansi are a Ugrian indigenous people living in Khanty–Mansia, an autonomous okrug within Tyumen Oblast in Russia. In Khanty–Mansia, the Khanty and Mansi languages have co-official status with Russian. The Mansi language is one of the postulated Ugric languages of the Uralic family. The Mansi people were formerly known as the Voguls…"

     
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    As usual, there's more to the story. The resentment is more of Russia TOWARDS the West
    than visa versa. The West was always richer and more sophisticated than the peasants of
    Russia. I am not a student of history but there's something suspicious in this business of
    Europe wanting Russian soil - generally speaking (Hitler, like Trump, doesn't count.) It
    smells of Russian propaganda. I know that Napoleon didn't invade Russia for "living space"

     
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    Of course Russia resents the West. Wouldn't you, if you had to keep fending them off all the time so they wouldn't grab your land and resources - and that goes back to the time of the Crusades and later on with the Pope's power grabs and the Teutonic Knights. As I stated before, if it wasn't so, the Rusyns and Ruthenians would still be under the Moscow Patriarch and not under the Pope - as well as the Russians and Slavs in Galatia and Croatia.

    Western Europe always advanced towards Russia, (not to mention the rest of the world) rather than the other way around. Let's face it, Europe always had a population problem - especially Germany. As for the Russians, they didn't have time for such nonsense from Europe when Islam was advancing into Christian lands and enslaving the people.


    Today Russia has 1/3 of the world's natural resources. This means that the one world order and government envisioned by the Washington ideologues cannot come about unless Russia becomes a 'normal' nation, and bows to Washington's will and hands it all over - something Vladimir Putin will never do.


    He believes that individual standards and cultural differences should be respected, and everyone can't be forced into the same mold. He said that it was tried before, and the USSR did not survive, nor will this new world order.
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    World order? Scotland is plotting another Independence push. Spain is ready to fly apart.
    Maybe Ireland and Wales next.
    Independence groups are everywhere. Wouldn't be surprised if the 38 or so states that
    comprise Germany don't break up.
    The EU doesn't look that good anymore - who's next to leave? Greece, Italy?
    Are the Islamic states going to join this "world order" ? And China?
    Won't Europe be Islamic by the end of the Century?
    Under what rules will this "world order" be?

    Methinks there's going to be WORLD DISORDER.
     
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    The following is an example of the superior 'western' intelligence that Russia is so jealous of:



    And the following is an example of the superior 'western' civilization and humanity that Russia is so jealous of.


    Putin made sure that the Russian Federation will be totally self sufficient and free of all debt. That way they will never become victims to a God-less and criminal ideology which has no concern for human life and dignity. So dream on my dear man, dream on.

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    Dreamland, dreamland,
    my very own serene land,
    where I am free to only see
    whatever pleases me - Jeannette


     
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    Instigating chaos and infighting through our NGO's and agents, is the means of bringing about the one world order and government envisioned by the Washington ideologues. This one world government will have one universal currency, one set of laws and one religious faith that will be a combination of all faiths.

    I came across this on Israeli news live. I know it sounds far fetched, but then again many things sounded far fetched at one time, so I like to keep an open mind and see how things unfold. According to Stephen De Nun who is a messianic Jew and very critical of Israel's policies, George HW Bush signed the 7 Noahide laws of the Talmud as being universal in the early 90's. Under the right interpretation, these Noahide laws are no different than Sharia law. Is this why our media ignored the mass killings of Christians in the Middle East? One has to wonder?

    Anyway this photo is telling - either that or its confusing at best. Does the Orb represent the world? :confuse:

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    Yes, certainly it represents the world. But what other representation beyond that I have no idea.
    Is that the former monarch of Saudi Arabia? Their idea of a world order is very different to Trump's,,
    and has fared a lot better.
     
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    The articles headline:
    An anti-Putin blogger had his throat cut in a French hotel, and the killing has the hallmarks of the Russian hit squad causing chaos in Europe


    From the article: “Imran Aliev, a 44-year-old blogger who was vocally opposed to Russian President Vladimir Putin and the Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov, died when his throat was cut in Lille, France, last week.”

    What?
     
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    Putin: Delusions of Grandeur or just a despot manipulating the masses.

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    I've said this before.....it's a case of inferiority complex, or small dick syndrome on the Rooski vatniks part.:))
     
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    It's not a Russian hit squad, since there's no such thing. As for the Chechnyans, well I wouldn't mess with them, and obviously the blogger did. I recall Kadyrov and his men saying that they will fight and kill terrorists wherever they are - so was the blogger a terrorist and was he propagating terrorism? Probably, otherwise he wouldn't have been criticizing Kadyrov - nor would the news sources mention his death to demonize Kadyrov and Vladimir Putin since we do support terrorists.

    I'm sure if another terrorist attack were to occur like one that killed 300 children in Breslen Russia, the Western Media would blame Putin for not being nice to terrorists.

    There is a saying about birds of a feather flying together. I like my version better:

    Wicked birds will always fly,
    together up in yonder sky.
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    But not the true, for fate has shown
    that justice always flies alone - Jeannette

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    I loved listening to Alan Keyes, and considered him one of the most brilliant men in the US. He always hated Obama since he stood for everything he opposed, so of course the demagogue became president, (compliments of George Soros of course), and Alan Keyes was knocked off the political scene.

    Since January 1st, there have been an average of 4 shootings a day in Chicago. Oh well, I guess this is what the voters there want.
     
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