Putin Is Using WWII for Propaganda Because It's the Best Memory That Russia Has

(G)holodomor, (G)Hitler, it is H not G, what is it with the Muscovites and their seeming difficulty with mispronunciation?

Labor camp, penal camp, death camp? What's the diff in Russia or former SU, very few made it out alive, quit sugarcoating, it's beyond ridiculous.

 

Do you know Russian language? Can you differentiate холод (holod)-cold from голод (golod)-hunger? If you talk about Ukraine, people there were starving from hunger-golod, and not from cold, so this is correct to call the phenomena Golodomor.

 

so you say olgino trolls, useful idiots, and freaks give respect to ww2 veterans? for me they are barbarian hordes of occupants , rapers, and killers, who did anything for Koba the great Satan . but i´d never do what olgino trolls, useful idiots, and freaks do today, they support putler´s Politician show with fake c-400, tanks, veterans , instead of helping to those who need badly help today. to those Muscovites who live like in the African hell . i asked N. about Valaam death camp for veteran-invalids , and mass liquidation of sovok veterans invalids in 1949. and what he said? - "so what"... so start your moralization from your friends





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She was often seen even at the Red Square Victory Day parades on May 9th.

She was exposed first when some of her decorations were worn the wrong way, not fitting with others next to them; plus her General's shoulder pads were not believed (there's only one known female Red Army general, Valentina Tereshkova, the cosmonaut); and she saluted with bare head, which is also against Russian military custom. Later, journalists found that she is, in fact, not even old enough to have fought in the War, at 71 years. Now we know that it was, actually, her (older and now dead) husband who was the real general and war veteran, and she wears his uniform on Victory Day in his memory and also, as her relatives said, she is just old and lonely and sad, and wants people to pay some attention to her. So, most are not angry at her, most look at such cases with more... compassion, really, than anger."


more of fake Muscovite vets WW2 http://www.politicalforum.com/index...acks-in-putler´s-russia-b-what-is-the.350465/

 

Oh, the horror - what a terrible person I am..! Instead of beating myself to death I merely pity people who died more than a half of century ago..!

I already stated my opinion on repressions, repeatedly. If it is not radical enough for your liking - it is your problem. So, what?

Since you so conveniently bringed up topic of helping russians - what did you to help us, actually? When did you ever cared about russians?

 

When you had respect to ukrainians or their land?

When had you respect to belaruses and their land?

 

When did you cared about victims of wars or atrosities?

 

When did you, ever, been sincere? That's when:

No honestly, no sincerity, no decency - no courage, no kindness and no compassion - no qualities, worthy or respect I see. Advertising land of others to foreigners to take, encouraging others to spill blood, discarding suffering of living, stomping on the selfesteem, drowning it in dirt and bile - that is what I see.

Mercy, respect, compassion and kindness - all to burn in fire of hatred, all sacrificed in quest to turn people hateful against my country and people. Hateful, insane, irrational, childish and criminal crusade for war, that never will happen. There will be no war between Russian Federation and whatever factions will stand in other parts of the world. No matter, how much, how vigorously, how passionately a hateful, cursed, villing lackeys would desire that. There will be no war.

You claimed me being evil - enjoy facing your own wickedness delivered there.

 

"Millions tourists every year, more German export in Ukraine (let's say 10 times more in 5 years) , your pensioner will buy houses in Western Ukraine almost for free. Most of Ukrainian banks will become Austrian and German.etc." with other words EU comeback for Ukraine. whats wrong here?

 

This is like a textbook script of russian-driven, paid propaganda, hitting on the major points as per Saul Alinsky's book on tactics: attack opponents by using the same methods you are using, try to sow doubt and confusion amongst the non-converted, introduce the nazis when earlier attempts to convince fail, claim that murderous dictators are "only doing what's right for their people!" - as if said dictator was ever going to, and that the topic of last resort - anti-americanism/West will be thrown out in case all of the prior efforts fail. Probably took the russian internet troll team a week to come up with such eloquent, brilliant and "convincing" poetry.

 

How do you plan to get rid of little boy putie? You know he's a crook/thief and murderer, what means do you possibly have that you can remove him from power since he shows no sign of ever wanting to leave?

 

why he will do so? he loves putler , he said it many times ...according N. all politicians the same....even thought putler is the gray khan of muscovy

 

Elections are in next March. Through responsibility and conscience, rationality and vigor. I believe in my people.

 

Yeah, am familiar with it, actually where I'm at right now in East Central SK, there's settlements of ukranians and Russians(doukhobors), I listened to the old-timers, I hear them use G many times, as when I was in Ukraine, I would hear the G stressed.

 

Your putinka will be there in the Kremlin until they carry him out feet first, your election in March 2018 has been decided, afaic.

 

I never understood one thing. We Germans lost WW II, but rule Europe today and have one of highest living standards in world....while russia is dirt poor...what did they do wrong?

 

Nothing...Germans are industrious by nature and psychology and rebound quickly, Russians don't seem to have that ability.

 

It's a Soviet tradition to commemorate the Great Patriotic War, which was designed to show off the country's military might to the world. North Korea copied it and the Korean version is a little embarrassing to watch. Putin has no reason to cancel the Soviet-style parade but most people think the victory parade is really old-fashioned.

 

Germany had a Marshall Plan, Russia did not.
Same observation can be made about Japan.

Personally, I preferred the Morgenthau Plan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgenthau_Plan

 

Rus' languages, old - Belarusian , Belarusian , Ukrainian (which is form of Belarusian State language I GDL) almost always H. Muscovites language is Bulgarian so for them always G. With other words you are 100% right

 

use subtitles :

 

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Elections are in next March. Through responsibility and conscience, rationality and vigor. I believe in my people.
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LOL Elections ))) , much like Zimbabweans, North Koreans ? and many other afro- asiats ?

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The difference is startling obvious.
In a death camp, you are worked to death. Deliberately. If you do not die fast enough, they kill you.

In a labour camp, you are allowed to work to live. You have workers rights. Human rights. And whatever food and shelter you can create for yourselves.

Mass murder vs mass imprisonment of mass murderers.

Here is the thing about the Gulags. If you were a captured German soldier and sent to Gulag, there is a strong chance that you one day returned to Germany.
If you were a captured Russian, soldier or otherwise. You got executed. There is no chance that you got back home. Zero. None.
Nada.

To compare the Russians to the Nazi's is to underplay the Nazi's.
Is to glamorise them.
Is to act as if their behaviour was morally equivocal to others, justifiable. It was not. It is not.

 

Didn't any other opinion from a valet. Not impressed and not interested.

 

Numerous things. Industrialisation went on too bog scale, which resulted in several food shortages and three famines, political and economic isolation, planned economy, at the last years of Union - the Age of Stagnation, when politicians just let country's resources slowly burn away, then dissolution of Union damaged economic relations in region, and all that on top of fact that USSR indeed was gretly damaged after war and it took years and enormous amount of resources to recover. Plus, let's be plain - too strong corporations and corrupted politicians.

Yet, still - "dirt poor" is too harsh. After all, how can you expect a flourishing economy from country sanctioned by majority of it's previous trade parthners, as well as embargoed by several of them?

But not to worry, once we correct our domestic issues - we'll get our hands on foreign policies. Thankfully, the younger and more sober generation seems to be gaining more influence there too, so fixing relations across world would be relatively easy.

 

*Russian, not soviet. The yearly parades begun only in 1995, in 50th anniversary of the end of WWII. Before that parades been in 1985, 1965, and, logically, in 1945. The Victory Day is a soviet tradition, but the parade on that day only became yearly tradition in time of president Eltzin.